audihoya

Hi Quick thoughts on where the better "deal" is amongst these...,

1) CPO Allroad Premium plus 2015 - 3K miles , $40K. Previous dealer loaner

2) CPO A4 Avant Premium 2012 - 30K miles. $31K. Convenience & Style packs

3) New Allroad Premium 2015 - $42.5K (attractive 0.00009 MF lease available ~ 0.2% financing)

or, Fully loaded new TDI Golf Sportwagen SLE 2WD -$33K!

For context:

I drive in the sierras 6-7x per year where the highway patrol requires chains for 2WD or AWD with snow tires, hence the desire (butt not a need) for quattro. Chains REALLY stink!

I'm not a car guy /enthusiast, but appreciate I decent car that lasts. I drive ~7K / year and have kept my most recent cars 16years ( Trooper) and 14 years ( Saab Wagon) .

If I had time to wait, would consider A3 Sportbackwhen they arrive w/ quattro + TDI or hybrid or a Golf Sportwagen when they come TDI + alltrack.

Thanks for your help

audihoya

well - I meant to ask for the quick thoughts from the readers... which car would you go for and why?! Thanks!

PaperToast

given the year model your asking about, this is the wrong sub forum for you
try here instead A4 allroad (B8 Platform) Discussion - AudiWorld Forums

takes a min to find, but its there on the main page

audihoya

Ah... thank you very much for the guidance

KekePerkele

Regardless of the place you posted. I don't see why you are comparing a 2WD Sportwagen to your other options. You are either "Allroad" guy .... or not. I also like the idea of driving a diesel Sportwagen, no doubt a great car ... but you either need AWD or you don't. If you don't need AWD, then you got A LOT more options.

whaleguy04

here's my $.02

sold my 04 AR last year and miss it...
bought a 2009 A4 avant CPO with 15k miles! great car after you chip it and add some tint.
I had a 2015 allroad loaner for a few days and honestly my 09 avant was the same car but half the price.
I also owned a 2009 jetta TDI sportwagon for 10 months. was a lemon and total garbage.

so I would go for the 2012 CPO avant and save a bunch of money.

2 wheel drive can suck it

brand new cars can suck it $$$

audihoya

Thanks for providing your perspective after having driven an allroad and an Avant.

audihoya

If anyone cares, I cross shopped the Allroad with other vehicles, and here is my 2 cents and outcome:

Allroad P+ and Tech package in several great colors were available at adealer for just over $42K, about $7K off MSRP.

BMW 328D xDrive about $47K with similar options. MSRP $54K

Allroad Pros:
cheaper by nearly $5K
Side assist is very useful to me
arguably a better AWD system in the quattro
slightly slicker intstrumentation
less snobby than a BMW in my opinion.

Allroad Cons:
No rear seat pass through for skis and poles - a shame for a winter car.
Subscription required for real time traffic after trial expiration
Mileage just ok at 22/28 MPG

BMW Pros
Drives really well, esp in Sport mode
43MPG
beautiful brown interior
Rear seat pass through
Glass flips up while hatch remains closed
All Maintenance included up to 50K miles - only pay for tires and diesel.
seven inches shorter fits my garage better

Decision:
Really wanted the Allroad, but decided the BMW would be all around more user friendly for my needs skiing the sierras, carry surfboards inside, and lower fuel and maintenace costs. If I love it in 3 years, I can buy it. If not, perhaps Allroad will have a diesel solution by then

Allroad was $499 per month despite lower price tag due to the lower residuals ( 53%) than BMW (64%). Leased the BMW for $355 a month before tax using MSDs and the dealer's buy rate. Should be cheaper to operate with diesel being much cheaper than premium right now in CA, better MPG, no Maintenance

Happy to offer further feedback for any other cross shoppers out there

caranddriver

Congratulations! I have a 2018 CPO A5 and it has been great. Mine came with about 7300 miles on it though. I did see where they had to do a slight touch up on a front right bumper scratch. It is a used car so I couldn't be too picky. It was less than a year old with 6 year/100K warranty with it so I'm not too worried.

I like the grey interior with the gray oak with the ventilated seats. Finding one with ventilated seats was the hardest option to come by.

To the poster searching, do a search on cars.com and autotrader.com as far as you are willing to travel to pick it up and then contact people via the Audi website or those websites and work with the Internet folks. They'll work with you over email to come to a price. I flew across the country to drive mine back - crazy but fun adventure.