B6 S4 Timing Chain Diagnose
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B6 S4 Timing Chain Diagnose
I have been posting in the 4.2 forum, but it was suggested that I move it over here to get model specific coverage. I have a 2004 Nogaro S4 MT6 with 114k miles. I am trying to be sure that the timing chain is my issue, and diagnose how far along the problem is. I have a VAG-COM (Genuine) and the ross-tech software. I am including my logs in below. They have told me to go search for Block 93 to find out about cam timing, but I can't find that information in the VAG.
I am having very little of the initial start up rattle, but my problem is while I'm driving. As I approach revs and hold them, it's almost like a chain rattle that I'm hearing that follows along side the revs of the engine. It's not very loud or disturbing, but I've had the car for 8 years and I know every sound and rattle that it makes, and this one has come on in the last month or so. I've stopped driving it for now. I tried making a video of it, but the gopro video noise overshadowed the engine noise.
Can you help me diagnose what the problem is, and the extent of it?
Here are my VAG-COM logs. I don't really see anything relevant.
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
Ross-Tech: Home
VIN: License Plate:
Mileage: 184530km-114661mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77
VIN: WAUPL68E94A181363 Mileage: 184530km-114661miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 UM HW: 8E0 907 560
Component: 5.0 91Oct JHM G 0010
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ6Z0C0389004
Coding: 0007711
Shop #: WSC 78390 536 452134
VCID: 0407D8E244DF1A62ED-515E
2 Faults Found:
18613 - Performance Malfunction in Cooling System
P2181 - 008 - - Intermittent
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 06435
VCID: 3663722A128378F223-5124
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1323
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 62CBFE7AEE8BB452BF-5140
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
Coding: 01013
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 356175260F8573EA2A-4B00
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 655 K
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 1001
Coding: 0010607
Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
VCID: 3F8D170E6DB9B9BAF0-515E
1 Fault Found:
01212 - Belt Tensioner Igniter; Rear Passenger Side (N197)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
Coding: 02041
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 3E736A0A3AB3B0B2FB-4B00
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 920 981 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42
Coding: 01231
Shop #: WSC 05141
VCID: 31694136FBED5FCA76-5140
WAUPL68E94A181363 AUZ6Z0C0389004
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 71E981363B6D1FCA36-4B00
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
Component: Komfortgerát T7B 1512
Coding: 11848
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 72EB8E3A3E6B24D2CF-4B1A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0004
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0004
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0004
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 0407D8E214DF1A62ED-4B32
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
Component: symphony II NP2 0410
Coding: 01205
Shop #: WSC 70656
VCID: 2C575042DCCF322245-5092
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:59)--------------------------
I am having very little of the initial start up rattle, but my problem is while I'm driving. As I approach revs and hold them, it's almost like a chain rattle that I'm hearing that follows along side the revs of the engine. It's not very loud or disturbing, but I've had the car for 8 years and I know every sound and rattle that it makes, and this one has come on in the last month or so. I've stopped driving it for now. I tried making a video of it, but the gopro video noise overshadowed the engine noise.
Can you help me diagnose what the problem is, and the extent of it?
Here are my VAG-COM logs. I don't really see anything relevant.
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
Ross-Tech: Home
VIN: License Plate:
Mileage: 184530km-114661mi Repair Order:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77
VIN: WAUPL68E94A181363 Mileage: 184530km-114661miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 UM HW: 8E0 907 560
Component: 5.0 91Oct JHM G 0010
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ6Z0C0389004
Coding: 0007711
Shop #: WSC 78390 536 452134
VCID: 0407D8E244DF1A62ED-515E
2 Faults Found:
18613 - Performance Malfunction in Cooling System
P2181 - 008 - - Intermittent
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 06435
VCID: 3663722A128378F223-5124
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1323
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 62CBFE7AEE8BB452BF-5140
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
Coding: 01013
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 356175260F8573EA2A-4B00
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 655 K
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 1001
Coding: 0010607
Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
VCID: 3F8D170E6DB9B9BAF0-515E
1 Fault Found:
01212 - Belt Tensioner Igniter; Rear Passenger Side (N197)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
Coding: 02041
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 3E736A0A3AB3B0B2FB-4B00
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 920 981 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42
Coding: 01231
Shop #: WSC 05141
VCID: 31694136FBED5FCA76-5140
WAUPL68E94A181363 AUZ6Z0C0389004
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 71E981363B6D1FCA36-4B00
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
Component: Komfortgerát T7B 1512
Coding: 11848
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 72EB8E3A3E6B24D2CF-4B1A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0004
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0004
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0004
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 0407D8E214DF1A62ED-4B32
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
Component: symphony II NP2 0410
Coding: 01205
Shop #: WSC 70656
VCID: 2C575042DCCF322245-5092
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:59)--------------------------
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