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Old 01-11-2019, 06:58 AM
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Hi all, hoping for some advice. Just picked up a new '18 allroad, Mythos full paint. I would like to bring it down from the heights, but don't want to "slam" it. Would like to preserve a decent ride, as the roads here in WI are terrible. Will probably add a rear sway bar and some 19's.

I have been researching, and just can't seem to find a direct answer. I am coming out of a Golf R with VWR springs and Koni FSD's that were about an inch lower than stock, and would bottom and rub on occasion. I'd like to find a solution that will not do this.

The H and R springs and coil overs seem to get mixed reviews. I can't find much on the 034 Motorsport springs. The KW HAS and coil overs also seem mixed, with some rear sagging problems.

I am leaning toward the Bilstein PSS10, would be interested to hear some opinions
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The real question is, how bad do you want to keep the stock magnetic ride?

I have the 034's, I really like them. I drive pretty ****ty mountain roads during the winter and have had no problems with them. The ride is good, very similar to my B8 with H&R springs on it.

If you go coilovers, you will loose the mag ride adjustment.

The KW comment., if they sag, they are adjustable? I guess I don't understand.
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Originally Posted by Noggybowl
The real question is, how bad do you want to keep the stock magnetic ride?

I have the 034's, I really like them. I drive pretty ****ty mountain roads during the winter and have had no problems with them. The ride is good, very similar to my B8 with H&R springs on it.

If you go coilovers, you will loose the mag ride adjustment.

The KW comment., if they sag, they are adjustable? I guess I don't understand.
I am starting to lean towards the 034 springs after additional research.

I would like to keep the ADC function operable. And there doesn't seem to be a good way to fully defeat the shock settings anyway if a coil over system is installed. KW has a plug, but it sounds like you will still get an occasional code thrown.

I've read that the HAS rear springs in some kits, even when adjusted to max height, were still too low, and difficult to adjust out the "reverse rake." And I'm not even sure there is a B9 application yet.


What wheel/tire specs are you running with the 034 springs?
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I have the 034 springs as well. Pretty pleased overall with ride quality compared to stock.

check these out if your looking for a good price on a used set.
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/841530-034-Motorsport-Dynamic-Springs-(B9)-225-SHIPPED
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Originally Posted by veloAR
I am starting to lean towards the 034 springs after additional research.

I would like to keep the ADC function operable. And there doesn't seem to be a good way to fully defeat the shock settings anyway if a coil over system is installed. KW has a plug, but it sounds like you will still get an occasional code thrown.

I've read that the HAS rear springs in some kits, even when adjusted to max height, were still too low, and difficult to adjust out the "reverse rake." And I'm not even sure there is a B9 application yet.


What wheel/tire specs are you running with the 034 springs?

I run a 20 x 10 ET25 with 265/35/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

They are out just a hair far for the car. I would say a ET27-30 is probably right if you want "flush" and be able to run a little wider tire.
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Thanks for the info.

So are you rubbing with that offset and width?
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Originally Posted by veloAR
Thanks for the info.

So are you rubbing with that offset and width?
I don't rub, much... But, then again, no one rides in the back of my car...

The right rear just barely (very lightly) rubs over massive suspension travel on the inside of the fender flare. Just the plastic. I only noticed it the first time when I came up on a train track crossing I wasn't expecting...

Usually if I'm driving hard I will put the suspension in sport mode to reduce the possibility of rubbing...
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Originally Posted by Noggybowl
I run a 20 x 10 ET25 with 265/35/20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

They are out just a hair far for the car. I would say a ET27-30 is probably right if you want "flush" and be able to run a little wider tire.

How much room do you have on the inside to the suspension components? I'm looking at a 20x10.5 +30, so I'd have 11mm less on the inside, and stick out 1mm more.
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You can enter your specs at www.willtheyfit.com

They give a pretty good idea of how your new setup measures up against the stock setup.
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