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Old 06-26-2006, 06:36 AM
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giggity...giggity.... *Quagmire*
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Nice.
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schweet! for 295-300whp on pump gas, sign me up! any install issues?
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dyno chart says 93
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APR did the install
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That would be 370-390 HP at the crank? It's hard to believe that the kit is so dramatically underrated by APR (333 crank HP claimed on their site).
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Default I think your calculation is wrong

15% Drivetrain loss
350 chp * 85% = 297.5 whp

20% Drivetrain loss
350 chp * 80% = 280 whp

That is why APR gives an estimate chp and does not give out the whp, because it will vary due to each car and other factors when the dyno tune is done
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Default obviously, but I'm curious if you've had time to look it over and see any issues or things that

could be done better.

post some pics, please.
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Thanks for the update
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Default I based my calculations roughly on 20-25% loss, given that that's the range I hear quoted for AWD

Overall, I have gathered that 25% is more realistic than 20%.

295/.8 = 368.75
295/.75 = 393.3

Neither of these is anywhere near the HP they advertise (333). So either they are very conservative about their estimates (although my understanding is that it's generally accepted that the 1.8 in stock form can reliably handle up to 350 crank HP - which would mean that APR makes a kit which could damage the engine while claiming to sell one that is within tolerance levels, i.e. 333 < 350), or the dyno wasn't calibrated properly.

I don't think 15% loss is realistic for an AWD car (unless it's FWD?).


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