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Old 02-01-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default MTM vs. other tuners

How did the other tuners get 230-240 hp out of their 1+ program and MTM only claims 205 hp?
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1) MTM underrates their performance, 2) "other" tuners are on V2 of their 1+ software
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I have found MTM to underrate by about 10%. They are bound by TUV for truth in performance numbers.
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Default If they are bound for truth, how come they are understating? IMO it is merely that they are NOT over

...stating!
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Default b/c legally it's better to underrate than to overrate... overrating would be a failure to deliver...

while who in his/her right of mind is gonna complain they're getting more than what they bargain for?!!?
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Default my car dynos about 10% more than they claim...

they understate so they are not put in a position to face problems with certification. that way if they have a car that dynos a little heat soaked it's not an issue as much. If you had to consistently prove your chip made 205 hp or else, would you rate it right at 205? I wouldnt. cheers! Mike
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Default Edited, not sure what MTM claims for their 1 plus, but who was the guy that was all pissed

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about his MTM set-up

I have GIAC 1+ and I am not sure how much power it is making but I know it is the first time they have done it for the B6 A4 1.8T

I also know that I gained over 40 horsepower at the wheels.

Now I belive that drivetrain loss is a generally accepted idea, albeit not all opinions the same.

I ask well lets say that my GIAC injector file could not possibly put out more power then the MTM injector program who claims 205 I think someone said. If this is true then how do I explain an over 40 horsepower increase at the wheels but less at the flywheel.

I am interested in hearing some peoples thoughts.

Andrew
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Under promise, over deliver.
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well said steph.
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Ask and you shall receive. Thanks.


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