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Old 04-18-2006, 09:14 PM
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<b>STaSIS Motorsport</b> suspension coilover kit.

First I would like to thank <b>Wes</b> for actually selling me the kit and big thanks to <b>Jason</b> at STaSIS for all his help and patience.

One negative thing (might as well get it out of the way). STaSIS as to get the proper instructions with pictures up on their web site or print out the instructions with pictures on paper for this suspension kit for the B6 application. It was a bit confusing to get the front shocks installed until Jason sent us some pictures on how to do it.

The next few pictures show the rear assembly already installed on the car. There were no problems of surprises when it came time to do it. It was strait forward and the springs were actually easier to install than the stock OEM ones because of their smaller size. As a matter of fact a spring compressor was not required.

Spring assembly (rated at 1200 Lbs!).

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsr01.jpg">

Rear shock assembly (aluminum housing).

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsr02.jpg">

Rear shock, another angle. Check out the bump stop at the bottom instead of the usual top position. A real inverted shock system.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsr03.jpg">

Close up of the bump stop.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsr04.jpg">

Now onto the frustrating part of the installation, the <b>front assembly</b>.

The problems start right from the beginning. Without the proper B6 installation instructions on their web site (STaSIS refers you to the B5 S4 installation) and the pictures showing the wrong way/parts to attach the shock to the top plate this leads you to think the B6 kit is wrong or missing parts. After talking to Jason we finally get to see the light at the end of the tunnel! Not only does he point out how to assemble the top plate and shock together he tells us how and where to pass the outboard reservoir (canister). Wait until you see this magic trick!

Here's the underneath part of the aluminium top plate minus the rubber pad. This is where the OEM spring set up would come to rest on a rubber pad that fits right around the metal cup.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf01.jpg">

Another view.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf02.jpg">

The problem lies in the fact that the Motorsport's top portion of its shock is terminated differently than a stock shock and also as the line that connects it to the external reservoir (canister). Because of this line the cup that sits underneath the top plate gets in its way. It actually would come down and lie right against the canister's line fitting, not good.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf03.jpg">

So the solution to this problem is to remove the top plate's cup! By using a punch from the top side and slowly punching it out the cup will eventually come off the top plate's assembly. Here's a shot of the top plate as seen from its top side. The small shinny ring in the middle is the attachment point of the cup that lies underneath it. Sorry for the bad pictures (next few).

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf04.jpg">

Using a punch and hammer to "punch" it out.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf05.jpg">

The top plate without the cup.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf06.jpg">

The cup removed from the top plate.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf07.jpg">

Now to show you how the shock fits right into the top plate coming to rest right up to the top, metal to metal.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf08.jpg">

Another view. This shows the gap between the top plate and the canister's line/fitting.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf09.jpg">

Better yet this angle shows I can actually fit a finger between the top plate and the fitting.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf10.jpg">

Here's a view from the top side showing how the shocks tower and treaded part comes trough.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf11.jpg">

Here we see the same thing but with the rubber bushing installed.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf12.jpg">

Here we see the strut assembly installed in the car.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf13.jpg">

Now here comes the second magic trick of the installation. Where do we pass the canister and run its plastic covered stainless steel line? Answer, right here. Yes folks we are going to pass that canister and line through that small opening in there. That's right squeeze it through the same hole that the steering's tie rod ends come through! Believe it or not it works.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf14.jpg">

Here's a close up look at it.

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/46874/smsf15.jpg">

Now I'm not going to show you where the canisters were secured in the engine bay because we ran out of time to do the permanent installation. So this will have to wait until the next time. Also you can imagine that after this installation, the wheel alignment was off. Take note that my four lower arms (links) and four upper arms (links) were also changed at the same time. Because we were short on time, we did a quick alignment so that I could drive the car tonight to put some mileage on it before a final ride height and wheel alignment is done (maybe tomorrow). It seems the ride height is settling just above 25 inches so it looks like we are going to have to lower the car a bit. I'll be happy with anything above 24 and 3/4 inches but not above 25.0 inches.

<b>Finally the initial road test review...</b>

Keeping in mind that the ride height is not at my optimal setting yet, that the wheel alignment is far from perfect with the wrong toe at the front, with mismatching camber settings and in the rear a toe in of about 0.6 and over -2.0 of camber (way too much), the car is now riding on 700 lbs springs in the front and 1200 lbs springs in the back and finally the most important fact of all, I did not know how and at what settings I should set the suspension's rebound and compression adjustments at, <b>this is one incredible suspension!</b> Not that I doubted STaSIS or some of the S4 guys I talked to before buying the kit, but again considering the spring rates on the car, the ride is incredibly smooth, I would say way better than stock, not harsh at all. Being that's the third suspension I try on my B6 and being a PSS9 advocate, I can honestly say this kit is on another playing field. I cannot wait to have it all tweaked out.

Kudos to STaSIS and Ohlins for a fantastic suspension kit. Again thanks to Wes (have fun with the Porsches) and Jason at StaSIS.

I'll keep you all posted when the set up is complete.
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nice. i wish i had the 'spending' cash for the motorsport kit.
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Before you get your alignment, consider changing the front outer tie rod ends to the newer B7A4/B5S4 ends. They're a solid 1 piece unit unlike the one you have which is 2 pieces separated with rubber.

Less rubber parts is good for a track car.
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Default MACRO MIKE! awesome job, It's an amazing feeling driving a car w/that setup

With the pictures try to take them for little farther back. The lense cannot focus on object that close. Hense the macro =)
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Default You have a B6 or a B7? Your sign looks like a B6 and this is the B7 boards...

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Default mikey, the stasis motorsports kit fits the b7. plus, jet is the man. he does things to his car...

i can only wish to do with mine.
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Default 2nd. His post definitely applies and I thank him for taking the time to post it hrere....

Welcome to the B7 boards Michel. I hope some of us are lucky enough to try out such a beautiful kit. Sounds like it is on another playing field from the PSS9 and Tracksport suspensions that have traditionally set the standard here. Good luck with it in the new season bro. cheers! Mike
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Default bhvrdr is the man. He does things to his car...

I can only wish to do with mine...seriously.

You guys are the very few of many who 'race' their A4's. Thanks for the representation.

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How can I be the man when you be the man? Heheh. thanks man.
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Default I stand corrected. LAS is the man. He vag'd my POS A4 and a very cool guy indeed.

I see now the dude is super cool. I stand corrected -- who gives a flying **** about a B6 vs. B7 board!!! Jet is the man!


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