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Yes - for those A6's which come with with Pirelli P-Zero tires, they will be noisier, and last less than an all season tire. BECAUSE they are Max performance summer tires, not because they are Pirelli.
Since you missed it or ignored it, treadlife decreases based on the higher performance aspects of a tire. If you look at the Max Performance category, nearly all the tires (including the Bridgestone entry) do not have any treadlife warranty. Only Michelin with the top tire in the category warrants their max performance tire to 30K miles.
Max performance tires by their nature do not last long and are noisy.
But hey, since all those A6s come with Pirelli P-Zero tires and it fits your narrative of hating Pirelli, I am sure you will continue to opine accordingly ignoring these factors.
Since you missed it or ignored it, treadlife decreases based on the higher performance aspects of a tire. If you look at the Max Performance category, nearly all the tires (including the Bridgestone entry) do not have any treadlife warranty. Only Michelin with the top tire in the category warrants their max performance tire to 30K miles.
Max performance tires by their nature do not last long and are noisy.
But hey, since all those A6s come with Pirelli P-Zero tires and it fits your narrative of hating Pirelli, I am sure you will continue to opine accordingly ignoring these factors.
#42
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The reality is that a large percentage of sport package A6s today are still coming equipped with Pirelli P-Zero tires which, if one wades through the many relevant posts in AW, a vast majority have agreed here they are representative of the good ol' days of Pirelli. Noisy, short tread life and at least for some, hard to keep balanced as they wear.
So, I guess I will choose to remain unenlightened and justified in expressing my opinion with the brand so long as Audi continues to put the P-Zeros on many of their new cars. Maybe if they chose a better Pirelli...
So, I guess I will choose to remain unenlightened and justified in expressing my opinion with the brand so long as Audi continues to put the P-Zeros on many of their new cars. Maybe if they chose a better Pirelli...
Let me also jump on the "Pirelli sucks" bandwagon. I had sidewall failure on the p-zero's I had at the time resulting in replacement on 5 occasions. I do remember the price -- $180 each. It was a number of years ago and the reason I went through so many of them was because I had replacement guarantee from America's Tire. They were the only ones that would write a guarantee on these low profile tires and I couldn't switch without buying new tires which I had no desire to do.
The tires would always fail at low speed around town, like when making a left/right turn and I was a starving student who didn't mind getting them replaced for $25 with a new guarantee on the new tire.
I'm sure their new stuff is better than what I experienced, but, I'll never find out.
#43
Man oh man...I read over this thread about the rattles and pops....LOL! I guess I know a big secret. I have an A3. Not a single rattle or pop. It's not Audi...it's the chemicals your using to clean the windows and car with. That's where most the rattles and pops are coming from.
#44
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OK, but then why does the Tire Rack website survey list the P7s as one of the consumer rated quietest, with 1.9 million miles of wear reported
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=GTAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=GTAS
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FWIW I have never said the OEM Max Performance Pirelli P-Zero's were good tires. On the contrary, I said they like nearly every Max performance summer tire will wear more quickly and be noisier than all seasons. Hell, I had my dealer replace them with Pirelli all seasons for me before I took delivery as part of my deal. My point has been and continues to be it is just plain stupid to take ones experience with one model tire (a summer max performance one at that) and decide everything the company makes sucks. Sorry it does not work that way. But if some want to be close minded to believe it, so be it
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I should add another POV - I have previously expounded on the harsh ride of the 20/PZero/Sport combination and I am anxious to replace the PZeros but since I will be paying for them for 5 years, I didn't want to replace them until I wore them out. It was stated that 25K miles was a good innings for the RZeros so I kept on going with them until now I am over 26K miles and I have lots of tread left - approx. 6/32. I will probably get 35K out of them and I am running them at 35psi.
I am looking at buying some 18's with Conti's OEM's but my PZeros won't wear out.
I am looking at buying some 18's with Conti's OEM's but my PZeros won't wear out.
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Man oh man...I read over this thread about the rattles and pops....LOL! I guess I know a big secret. I have an A3. Not a single rattle or pop. It's not Audi...it's the chemicals your using to clean the windows and car with. That's where most the rattles and pops are coming from.
#50
I had a 2006 A4, a 2008 A4, a 2010 A6 and now a 2013 A6. All had Conti’s except for the 2008 that had Pirelli’s (I think they were P7’s). In my experience, the Pirelli’s gave a very smooth ride and were quieter than the Conti’s. Coming from a 2006 A4 with Conti’s to the 2008 A4 (the same B7 platform) I was very surprised and pleased with the Pirelli’s. I traded that car in on the 2010 A6 at 23,000 miles and they still seemed to have a lot of tread life in them. Of course, I am a very sedate driver (less kind words come to mind).