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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Default It won't mess up your mileage.

The dealer puts in the correct mileage when they code it. And so no issues on the title. That's why I figured for $60 (or whatever his dealer charges him) he could be fixed.

Searching the forums in AW has always been a huge help to me. Especially when there are common issue's like this one. Although I'm sure they have also pointed me in the wrong direction at times as well. I chalk those up to preventative maintenance.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Li3ny
The dealer puts in the correct mileage when they code it. And so no issues on the title. That's why I figured for $60 (or whatever his dealer charges him) he could be fixed.

Searching the forums in AW has always been a huge help to me. Especially when there are common issue's like this one. Although I'm sure they have also pointed me in the wrong direction at times as well. I chalk those up to preventative maintenance.
You cannot recode mileage on a used cluster. Only a brand new cluster that has less than 100 km or miles on it.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GTA_Driver
You cannot recode mileage on a used cluster. Only a brand new cluster that has less than 100 km or miles on it.
second this, code a used cluster with less mileage is illegal here.
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lucio_liu
second this, code a used cluster with less mileage is illegal here.
Technically, the cluster won't allow itself be recoded if it has more than 100 kms on it. It's a technical limitation. So the dealer physically won't be able to recode.

However, there are some underground tools that can.
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 04:29 AM
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Default My dealer set my mileage on 2 different used clusters.

My RS6 cluster came with 60K on it they programmed it to 140k. (which I was hoping they wouldn't) And my A6 used cluster had 200k on which they brought down to 140K. (Which was very nice of them)

I was a licensed inspection mechanic in NY & currently am in PA. Never heard of any such laws.

The dealer didn't even bat an eye....took care of it in less than an hour.
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Li3ny
My RS6 cluster came with 60K on it they programmed it to 140k. (which I was hoping they wouldn't) And my A6 used cluster had 200k on which they brought down to 140K. (Which was very nice of them)

I was a licensed inspection mechanic in NY & currently am in PA. Never heard of any such laws.

The dealer didn't even bat an eye....took care of it in less than an hour.
Really? That's interesting. Maybe it's the laws in Canada/Ontario, but this has been corroborated by many others. The way I understood is that the cluster has a security mechanism that will not allow itself to be reprogrammed unless it's under 100 kms.

Wonder if they're using "unofficial" tools for that job...
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 07:21 AM
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Ross-Tech agrees. On their page regarding cluster swapping. See the last sentence.

So how did your dealer recode a used cluster? I doubt via the official Audi means.


[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Adaptation - 10]

Enter "channel number" 09 to select channel
Put in the number of km divided by 10. Example: If old cluster had 50,357 km, put in 5036.
Note: Some clusters may require a Login of 13861 before you can set the mileage.
[Test]

Observe the Instrument Cluster and make sure the mileage displayed is correct. Once you save this value, you will be unable to change the mileage EVER!
[Save]
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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I can recode a used cluster. When I sell units with new LCD's I generally ask for the owners mileage, or send them out with 0 miles and a login code so it can be done via VCDS.
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Originally Posted by lucio_liu
second this, code a used cluster with less mileage is illegal here.
Generally illegal only if you deceive as to the mileage.
Most states if not all have a disclaimer where you state the mileage on the odometer is not the actual mileage.
Intent to deceive is extremely difficult to prove....
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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I don't know how they did it. The service manager is a friend, he didn't mention anything special was required. But he is a friend so it could have been.

They where worried about the RS6 cluster working properly in the A6, but it functions perfect.
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