Diminishing (Engine) Returns
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Because you won't be able to get the same engine for less or a parts car/engine for a relative price that may be more desirable to put $ into. Not to mention pulling the engine is more likely to cause other problems with deteriorated wiring, connectors, etc., etc.
If you like the car, repair whatchoo got.
It shouldn't be $4K either…tensioners are available online for much less than stealer price, the plastic shoes are about $22 a pair (you need 4 on a V8), and gaskets, etc. are another couple hundred (spendy Audi stuff).
An independent mechanic should be able to do it for around $2K. A few hundred more if the chains have to be replaced.
If you like the car, repair whatchoo got.
It shouldn't be $4K either…tensioners are available online for much less than stealer price, the plastic shoes are about $22 a pair (you need 4 on a V8), and gaskets, etc. are another couple hundred (spendy Audi stuff).
An independent mechanic should be able to do it for around $2K. A few hundred more if the chains have to be replaced.
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i wouldnt replace the engine in an 11 year old car anyway . if constantly sinking money into it is your issue , sell your Audi . This will be a worsening problem as you hit 12-15 years unless you can do a lot yourself.
id fix it myself till i got tired , then just get rid of it .
id fix it myself till i got tired , then just get rid of it .
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Less grief to sell your audi and buy an RS6.
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Felt. A RS6 is around 20K and has more than likely original everything/ minimal services done. My car has brand new everything w/ 10K in service done to it in totality. I couldn't sell my car for more than 10K. The math doesn't make sense for me, cheque it-
4.2 was= 10K
Things done= 10K
Me= 20K all in
Sold= 10K (Bollocks)
RS6= 20K
Things= 10K
Math= 40K total
Alternate Math
4.2= 10K
Things= 10K
Built RS6 Engine/ isht Installed w/ 6MT= 10K
Math= 30K Spent total
I like the 30K option better, it'll afford me some floor mats and a air freshener after all is said/ done.
4.2 was= 10K
Things done= 10K
Me= 20K all in
Sold= 10K (Bollocks)
RS6= 20K
Things= 10K
Math= 40K total
Alternate Math
4.2= 10K
Things= 10K
Built RS6 Engine/ isht Installed w/ 6MT= 10K
Math= 30K Spent total
I like the 30K option better, it'll afford me some floor mats and a air freshener after all is said/ done.
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Why would u junk an engine for chain tensioners. Take it to a shop that not a total rip off. Tensioners can be had for 2-300 bucks each, and its like 3 hours a side to do them. Not 3k. your being ripped off.
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I was told 3K both sides and all other pricing provided/ accepted via this mechanic has been within reason comparatively speaking. But, considering I'm not the pro, I will take your advise and see where it lands me by taking it elsewhere. Regardless, I still dislike the Engine... So I am still considering a swap even if I'm able to not get ripped off on correcting this engine. Thanks for the info Prospeeder, I like it.
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Book time is actually 9.2 hours to do both which is generous lol. if its 90$ an hour, thats 828$ labor. 600$ for tensioners, about 60-80 bucks in gaskets....wheres 3000 dollars in that I have no idea.
Heres just one. Hmmm 150$....i say 300$ because we shops do need to mark things up for profit. But its NOT ok for a shop to buy cheap stuff and charge dealer list which is probably why its so much, as list is like 850 a tensioner. But there are aftermarket ones out there for 150-300 or so. I put a 150$ tensioner on my 1.8T Passat and so far its been working fine. Supply your own parts for much less, and just pay them labor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Audi-V8-4-2-Engine-Timing-Chain-Tensioner-077109087C-077109087P-Left-Side/231223284059?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23928%26meid%3D8529165386757083107%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10200%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D300865084800
Heres just one. Hmmm 150$....i say 300$ because we shops do need to mark things up for profit. But its NOT ok for a shop to buy cheap stuff and charge dealer list which is probably why its so much, as list is like 850 a tensioner. But there are aftermarket ones out there for 150-300 or so. I put a 150$ tensioner on my 1.8T Passat and so far its been working fine. Supply your own parts for much less, and just pay them labor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Audi-V8-4-2-Engine-Timing-Chain-Tensioner-077109087C-077109087P-Left-Side/231223284059?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23928%26meid%3D8529165386757083107%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10200%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D300865084800
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Not a good idea to supply parts….if they go bad you're out of luck…and are you good enough to tell whether the part is bad or the install was bad/sloppy.
If you're going to have someone else do it, they supply the parts and the warranty.
If you're going to have someone else do it, they supply the parts and the warranty.
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Knock yourself out if you can get an RS6 engine installed with a 6MT for 10K.
(Grabs bowl of popcorn and settles back to watch).
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(Grabs bowl of popcorn and settles back to watch).
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Book time is actually 9.2 hours to do both which is generous lol. if its 90$ an hour, thats 828$ labor. 600$ for tensioners, about 60-80 bucks in gaskets....wheres 3000 dollars in that I have no idea.
Heres just one. Hmmm 150$....i say 300$ because we shops do need to mark things up for profit. But its NOT ok for a shop to buy cheap stuff and charge dealer list which is probably why its so much, as list is like 850 a tensioner. But there are aftermarket ones out there for 150-300 or so. I put a 150$ tensioner on my 1.8T Passat and so far its been working fine. Supply your own parts for much less, and just pay them labor.
For Audi V8 4 2 Engine Timing Chain Tensioner 077109087C 077109087P Left Side | eBay
Heres just one. Hmmm 150$....i say 300$ because we shops do need to mark things up for profit. But its NOT ok for a shop to buy cheap stuff and charge dealer list which is probably why its so much, as list is like 850 a tensioner. But there are aftermarket ones out there for 150-300 or so. I put a 150$ tensioner on my 1.8T Passat and so far its been working fine. Supply your own parts for much less, and just pay them labor.
For Audi V8 4 2 Engine Timing Chain Tensioner 077109087C 077109087P Left Side | eBay