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02-20-2013, 07:24 AM
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Need HELP ASAP!
Okay, so, I'm in the middle of a clutch job on my 2000 Audi A6 2.7t 6 Speed Quattro, and I'm stuck on removing the main driveshaft. I have read on different forums that to remove the prop shaft from the back of the trans, you simply remove the allen bolts around the flange and loosen the flange and it should drop away. Well, I removed all the allen bolts, got the flange loose, removed the center support bearing bracket to give some extra room for the shaft to move around, and when I start to remove the shaft out of the transmission it is free, but won't come out all the way. There is a section of the shaft protruding into the transmission and I don't have enough play in the shaft (front to back) to pull it out far enough to clear the transmission and move out of the way.
My next move will be to remove the allen bolts on the rear differential end of the shaft and try to pull it out on that end and see if that works, but I'm afraid once I do that, it will be the same setup (with a section of the shaft protruding too far into the rear diff) and that I won't have enough space to pull it out on that end either...
Doesn't make sense, there's simply not enough room sliding the drive shaft forward and backward to get it to clear the trans...
Any direction would be greatly appreciated..
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Shane
My next move will be to remove the allen bolts on the rear differential end of the shaft and try to pull it out on that end and see if that works, but I'm afraid once I do that, it will be the same setup (with a section of the shaft protruding too far into the rear diff) and that I won't have enough space to pull it out on that end either...
Doesn't make sense, there's simply not enough room sliding the drive shaft forward and backward to get it to clear the trans...
Any direction would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks,
Shane
02-20-2013, 08:21 AM
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Okay, so, I'm in the middle of a clutch job on my 2000 Audi A6 2.7t 6 Speed Quattro, and I'm stuck on removing the main driveshaft. I have read on different forums that to remove the prop shaft from the back of the trans, you simply remove the allen bolts around the flange and loosen the flange and it should drop away. Well, I removed all the allen bolts, got the flange loose, removed the center support bearing bracket to give some extra room for the shaft to move around, and when I start to remove the shaft out of the transmission it is free, but won't come out all the way. There is a section of the shaft protruding into the transmission and I don't have enough play in the shaft (front to back) to pull it out far enough to clear the transmission and move out of the way.
My next move will be to remove the allen bolts on the rear differential end of the shaft and try to pull it out on that end and see if that works, but I'm afraid once I do that, it will be the same setup (with a section of the shaft protruding too far into the rear diff) and that I won't have enough space to pull it out on that end either...
Doesn't make sense, there's simply not enough room sliding the drive shaft forward and backward to get it to clear the trans...
Any direction would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks,
Shane
My next move will be to remove the allen bolts on the rear differential end of the shaft and try to pull it out on that end and see if that works, but I'm afraid once I do that, it will be the same setup (with a section of the shaft protruding too far into the rear diff) and that I won't have enough space to pull it out on that end either...
Doesn't make sense, there's simply not enough room sliding the drive shaft forward and backward to get it to clear the trans...
Any direction would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks,
Shane
Just be careful to mark the driveshaft front and rear flanges to the transmission and rear diff flanges so you put the driveshaft back in the same way. Don't split the driveshafts unless you index them too!!!
02-20-2013, 08:57 AM
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I would think the rear driveshaft is a flange....the whole driveshaft WILL come out.
Just be careful to mark the driveshaft front and rear flanges to the transmission and rear diff flanges so you put the driveshaft back in the same way. Don't split the driveshafts unless you index them too!!!
Just be careful to mark the driveshaft front and rear flanges to the transmission and rear diff flanges so you put the driveshaft back in the same way. Don't split the driveshafts unless you index them too!!!
Anyway, I guess I'm going to undo the diff side and see where that gets me.
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02-20-2013, 10:00 AM
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Transmission Driveshaft Flange
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02-20-2013, 10:04 AM
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Transmission End Of Driveshaft
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Center Driveshaft Carrier Bearing Bracket
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Rear Differential End of Driveshaft
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Inside of Differential Driveshaft Flange
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Rear Differential
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These are all the Pics of my situation...Am I Just pulling apart the wrong section of the flange(like just the boot or something)?
Need incite, I don't want to start prying on different parts and break something....
<a href="http://s900.beta.photobucket.com/user/shane122108/media/IMAG0116.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/shane122108/IMAG0116.jpg" border="0" alt="Transmission photo IMAG0116.jpg"/></a>
Center Driveshaft Carrier Bearing Bracket
<a href="http://s900.beta.photobucket.com/user/shane122108/media/IMAG0115.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/shane122108/IMAG0115.jpg" border="0" alt="Center Driveshaft Carrier Bearing Bracket photo IMAG0115.jpg"/></a>
Rear Differential End of Driveshaft
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Inside of Differential Driveshaft Flange
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Rear Differential
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These are all the Pics of my situation...Am I Just pulling apart the wrong section of the flange(like just the boot or something)?
Need incite, I don't want to start prying on different parts and break something....
02-20-2013, 11:15 AM
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Okay, never-mind I guess I'm dumb. I found picture of the drive shaft off the vehicle and it answered my question.
I should have no problems removing now (hopefully).
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I should have no problems removing now (hopefully).
<a href="http://s900.beta.photobucket.com/user/shane122108/media/AudiDriveShaftEnd2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/shane122108/AudiDriveShaftEnd2.jpg" border="0" alt="Audi Drive Shaft End 1 photo AudiDriveShaftEnd2.jpg"/></a>
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02-20-2013, 01:15 PM
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drive shaft removal
I just did mine and you do need to take both ends off to get the drive shaft out. Remove the center support and then you can manipulate it to get it out. Careful it's not super heavy but it will drop right on your noggin. Pay attention to the spacer bushings on the center support. You need to get those back just like they were. Gob the cv joints full of grease when you put it back together.
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02-20-2013, 06:22 PM
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I just did mine and you do need to take both ends off to get the drive shaft out. Remove the center support and then you can manipulate it to get it out. Careful it's not super heavy but it will drop right on your noggin. Pay attention to the spacer bushings on the center support. You need to get those back just like they were. Gob the cv joints full of grease when you put it back together.
02-20-2013, 07:48 PM
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O wow. It never occurred to me you would remove part of the joint and try leaving the other part on the trans output flange...
But I can see how that would happen if you have never done it before.
You are not dumb, just ignorant. Not knowing can be fixed, you saw instantly what was wrong when you looked at a driveshaft pic off the car. Dumb is forever and can't be fixed.
I'd call it a victory for cheap labor!
But I can see how that would happen if you have never done it before.
You are not dumb, just ignorant. Not knowing can be fixed, you saw instantly what was wrong when you looked at a driveshaft pic off the car. Dumb is forever and can't be fixed.
I'd call it a victory for cheap labor!
02-21-2013, 04:01 AM
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grease
Not sure what sort or weight of grease is in there but it's all black and won't come out in the wash. Ask at the parts store. Mine came pre-greased since I replaced the whole drive shaft. Pennzoil makes a product called "Heavy Grease" so something along those lines.