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Next M5 short on torque? Rumours suggest so. The Lamborghini V10 puts out about the same.

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Old 02-25-2004, 04:49 PM
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Default Next M5 short on torque? Rumours suggest so. The Lamborghini V10 puts out about the same.

Here is a scoop from autocar:
Autocar spies have scooped the best pictures yet of BMW's new 500bhp M5 super-saloon. Caught testing virtually undisguised on public roads in Munich, it is set to be unveiled sooner than expected at the Geneva Motor Show in March, before going on sale in the UK in a year's time at around £55,000.
Known internally as the `Five Car' - thanks to an impressive spec of 5.0 litres, 500bhp and 500Nm (369lb ft, the same as the current V8-powered car) of torque - the E60 M5 is powered by a Formula One-inspired 90-degree, 40-valve V10. Prototypes are rumoured to produce up to 540bhp at a heady 10,000rpm, but for production cars the limit will be set at 9000rpm for longevity.
Still, an extra 100bhp over the current car should slash a second off the 0-60mph dash, down to 4.5sec, with the top speed still limited to 155mph. Transmission options are likely to include a six-speed manual and an optional SMG (Sequential Manual Gearbox) with paddle-shift operation, but a BMW insider quashed speculation of an automatic option to enhance appeal to American buyers.
`All M5s have been manuals and so will the new car,' said our source. `We are thinking of other options - one possibility is SMG like we have in the M3 - but certainly not an automatic.'
Any complaints about the new 5-series' styling are answered in the butch flagship, with flared wheelarches, a deep front air dam, side skirts, 10-spoke alloys and M3 CSL-style flaps at each corner for extra downforce. M-division favourites such as front-wing vents and quad tailpipes also make an appearance.
Surprise news for estate fans is that BMW also looks set to build an M5 Touring, which would follow the saloon in 2005 to tackle Audi's RS6 Avant. `We have had requests from customers for a Touring,' our source said. `It was not worthwhile with the last M5, but times have changed and it is now quite trendy to have a high-performance estate.'
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Yikes. Ironic the RS 6 can produce gobs of Tq but hamstrung by the tranny.
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Default That won't be the case with the next RS6 ;-)

There has been a rumour that the C6 S6 is getting another look with an eye for production. Numbers very much like the new M5. Makes me wonder how fearsome the RS6 might be! :-D
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Default Well, within reason, maximum torque is related to displacement...

...so if you're going to stick to a 5.0L engine, you're not going to get a whole lot more torque out of it so long as both engines are "high performance" engines unless you program it to run on different fuel, add a turbo/supercharger, or do something else technologically different than what is featured on other normally aspirated motors. I might have expected this new 5.0L V10 to make closer to about 400 lb-ft, but still 369 lb-ft is not that far off.
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Default Fine, there goes more of my not so disposable income. ;-)

I took the liberty of posting your info on m5board.com, we'll see what they say.

<a href="http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39450">M5 Board</a>
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I have pics of the next M5 - including interior - mail if you want them.
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No, no, me a Bimmer? Never. I was lusting after the next RS 6.
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Default I have to say the M is the best rendition of the p*ssed off koi kabuki mask look ;-)

I have a pic of the tach, and it's clearly redlined at around 8200rpms. Might be SMG only. In which case you have to ask if that is the torque limiting technology - much like the RS6.

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