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Old 05-01-2001, 09:28 AM
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Default Here is instrument cluster with steering wheel type B information...

VAG Number: 4B0 920 980 M
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D09
Soft Coding: 00264
Shop #: WSC 00000

Adaptation:
01: ERROR: Channel 01 Not Available
02: ---- ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 0)
03: Consumption Indicator ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 100)
04: Language ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 2)
05: ERROR: Channel 05 Not Available
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Old 05-01-2001, 12:26 PM
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Default Here is instrument cluster with steering wheel type A information...

VAG Number: 4B0 920 980 M
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D07
Soft Coding: 02264
Shop #: WSC 00000

"Interesting" Adaptation channels (i.e. not explained by labels):
All show N/A N/A N/A N/A fields:
18 = 0
32 = 0
33 = 32768
35 = 0
60 = 0
61 = 0
62 = 0

marcos, could you try coding your cluster to 02264 and see if that has any effect on steering wheel buttons?
Old 05-01-2001, 01:36 PM
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Default Oops, typo my soft coding was already 02264

Sorry about that, here is the correct data from my instrument cluster, including all the adaptation data (btw, I'm using VAG-COM Beta 0.75).

I've already tried the obvious and changed channel 62 to 0, but that didn't seem to have any effect. I also tried changing channel 31 to 0, that didn't have any effect either, but now I can't change it back to 128! I wonder, is that a bad thing?


VAG Number: 4B0 920 980 M
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D09
Soft Coding: 02264
Shop #: WSC 00000

Adaptation:
02: ---- ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 0)
03: Consumption Indicator ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 100)
04: Language ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 2)
09: Mileage Status in 10 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 1917)
18: (Stored Value: 0)
30: Tank Sender ----- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 128)
31: (Stored Value 128)
32: (Stored Value 0)
33: (Stored Value 32768)
35: (Stored Value 0)
40: Actual Value Insp. In. ON 00 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 35)
41: Actual Value Insp. In. ON Days [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 61)
42: TNF 001 219 Oil In. ON 000 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 8)
43: TNF 001 220 Oil In. ON 000 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 8)
44: TNF 001 220 Oil In. ON Days [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 365)
60: (Stored Value 0)
61: (Stored Value 0)
62: (Stored Value 4)

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Default Here is my instrument cluster with steering wheel type B information...

Here is the info I get on my 2001 2.7T with type "B" wheel. I have Bose, changer, no phone.

VAG Number: 4B0 920 981 G
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D12
Soft Coding: 02264

Your "Interesting" Adaptation channels (i.e. not explained by labels):
All show N/A N/A N/A N/A fields:
18 = N/A (according to my notes, maybe should recheck?)
32 = 0
33 = N/A (this one I'm sure of)
35 = 0
60 = 1027
61 = 0
62 = 4

So my instrument panel differs in the "interesting" values but not the soft coding. I checked all 99 codes. I had no other "interesting" channels with all N/A values. Channel 2 had a value of 0 with 3 blank boxes above, the last having the [Text 000 107] in it.

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Old 05-01-2001, 01:44 PM
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Default Bummer!

I wonder if anyone with a D07 panel has the R/T buttons or anyone with a D09 panel has the &LT &GT buttons?

I don't know of any way to tell what login was used, so no help there.

It's entirely possible that handling of the wheel buttons is just different between D07 and D09 hardware/firmware.

It's also possible that the wheel identifies itself the the cluster who then behaves appropriately - if it's firmware is uplevel enough to support that.

It's also possible I'm just way off base on this instrument cluster theory.
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Default Anyone with VagCom/VWTool/etc and *either* wheel, please chime in...

At least with your cluster part number and revision.

I'm curious if there's a direct relation between cluster rev and button function or if we can find an overlapping set. E.g. anyone with my revision (D07) cluster but R/T button function would be a good candidate for a closer look. Anyone w/Marcos' (D09) or Delaware_Tom's (D12) with &LT &GT function, etc...
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Default I followed this lead...

and looked at the Airbag Controller. There was one adaptation channel clearly labeled as an airbag channel and scrolling from 1 through 52 didn't show any other active channels. I doubt that it is hiding under airbags.
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Default Played with it some more...

Here is a copy of marcos' readings adjusted for what I get. Differences highlighted with ***:

Note: I don't have channel 31, mine says N/A in the channel value field.

VAG Number: 4B0 920 981 G ***
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D12 ***
Soft Coding: 02264

Adaptation:
02: ---- ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 0)
03: Consumption Indicator ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 100)
04: Language ---- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 2)
09: Mileage Status in 10 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 42) ***
18: (Stored Value: 0)
30: Tank Sender ----- ---- [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 128)
31: N/A for stored value ***
32: (Stored Value 0)
33: N/A for stored value ***
35: (Stored Value 0)
40: Actual Value Insp. In. ON 00 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 4) ***
41: Actual Value Insp. In. ON Days [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 12) ***
42: TNF 001 219 Oil In. ON 000 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 10) ***
43: TNF 001 220 Oil In. ON 000 Miles [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 10) ***
44: TNF 001 220 Oil In. ON Days [Text 000 107] (Stored Value: 365)
45: TNF 001 212 TNF 001 213 TNF 001 216 [Text 000 107] *** marcos didn't have this one!
60: (Stored Value 1027) ***
61: (Stored Value 0)
62: (Stored Value 4)

I also tried changing channel 62 to 0, and 1, 2, and 3. It did not enable the phone buttons as the radio p-scan, nor did it seem to affect the radio operation with the other buttons on the wheel (ie. they still worked). HOWEVER, when I changed the value to 0, 1, 2, or 3 and then pressed the lower buttons, I happened to notice that I had two fault codes each time:

01303 - Tranceiver for telephone
49-00 - No communications

01304 - Radio
49-00 - No communications

I cleared these codes each time and did not get them whenever I reset the channel to 4. Pressing any of the buttons on the wheel after I had these codes did not throw repeats (I exited and reentered the Faults display to check). I realize now that I never checked to see if I got these codes merely by changing channel 62 to something other than 4 with no button presses. Hmmm ... seems like we are in the right area.

Tomorrow, my friend at work will try to wrestle the 2000 A6 2.7T with a type A wheel away from his wife and I will check what that one has coded.

- Tom
Old 05-03-2001, 07:04 AM
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Default Another type A

Just checked my workmate's 2000 A6 2.7T with the lower wheel buttons being radio p-scan. His numbers are almost exactly the same as Richard's:

VAG Number: 4B0 920 980 M
Component: C5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D09
Soft Coding: 02264
Shop #: WSC 00000

"Interesting" Adaptation channels (i.e. not explained by labels):
All show N/A N/A N/A N/A fields:
18 = 0
32 = 0
33 = 32768
35 = 0
60 = 0
61 = 0
62 = 0

The only difference I saw was his is a D09 rather than a D07. I only checked the channels that Richard documented, so I did not think to look for the value at channel 31 that marcos reported. At this point I am mystified. Here is a D09 panel with the radio buttons we want, but marcos couldn't get the behaviour we want with his D09 panel. Something is hiding somewhere else. I suspect we need channel 62 *and* another value. What was the wheel soft coding for type A? Is it different from type B?

Oh well, I recoded his central locking for window control from the remote and automatic locking at 15 mph as well as lowered his alarm internal sensor's sensitivity at his request.

- Tom
Old 05-03-2001, 11:08 AM
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Default Richard, can you tell me what soft code your wheel has?

I haven't been able to find the earlier discussion in the forum. I couldn't catch my friend at work to go back out and check his car and who knows when he can bring it into work again.

- Tom


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