yourk

http://www.ecomcars.co.uk/newcarsecrets/spypictures/feb_2002/audi/audi.html

Big D

These were posted about 6 mos ago, I'm from the school of believe it when I see it.

Xialater

Then Audi will have a problem.....I like the lines of the car the more I look at it, but want to see it face to face before I even consider plunking down a deposit........BUT, if they are staying with the same powerplants that are in the current A8 (meaning the 4.2L V8 @ 310 Hp) then I'm gonna be looking more at the S class Benz or the AMG variant of it to be more specific.....AoA needs to bring something bigger over here for an engine, otherwise, no one will even pay much attention to the new A8, not to mention the crap reviews it will get.....Myself, I'm holding out hope for the BiTurbo V8 (but it will probably never happen) or the W12 it's already offering overseas.....if they come out with something else, like the talk of the Lambo engines, etc, I'd be happy, but keeping the same engine it has in there will not cut it in this type of market

Xialater

And, I will quote it from the Audiworld interview on September 29

"AW - With the A8, is the W12 happening in the US?

LH - Not really. We looked at it, and it would be very minutely numbered. The S8 is small enough numbers and that is going well. We would only do 400-600 of those. We only sell 2,500 A8s all together. There's been a major revitalization since we added the long wheelbase model.

We had a normal wheelbase, and then split it and added a long wheelbase and a normal wheelbase S8. That has worked very well. Our dealers love it. Our customers love it. It's been very nice for us and has revitalized the A8. The 12-cylinder is not something we could consider due to homologation costs."





Personally, I think getting the New A8 out, with some truely impressive numbers behind it would be the best thing for Audi....considering the lack of good response to the new BMW 745i, they have a chance to really change the marketplace here, if they do things right.....Audi has always built a good car, and I do have some faith in them to do the same here, but I just hope their marketing can back it up, and please, please, PLEASE fix the service issues.....took me three weeks to get my car back to get the 60K mile service done, and to have 3 minor oil leaks fixed due to parts issues.......

ScottS8

I also spoke to Len Hunt at a ALMS race about a year ago and, when asked about the future of the S8, he spent a substantial amount of time talking about the new Lambo L140 V10 engine as an option for the North American S8.

He made no promises, however he felt at that time (again about a year ago) that this was a very attractive option for him given the characteristics of the American market. Since both the S8 and Lamborghinis are low volume cars, it could make perfect sense economically to add the engine option to the S8 at the time Lamborghini introduces the "baby lambo" L140 to North America in 2004 or 2005.


I've raised this possibility before on this forum, but with little belief of the concept. If nothing else it's fun to think about. If it comes true, however, I'll expect everyone here in 2004 to chip in a few bucks towards my new V10-powered S8!

ryoung

Of all the possibilities, I like this the best.

KjellA

Agreed, and for the record; I do believe the V10 will be used in a S-car! :-)

Audi S5 TC

My guess for the W12 is 500 horsepower @ 8,000 RPM and 510 foot/pounds of torque @ 3,000 RPM but I don't know for sure. The 2005 S6 will have the four cam 40V 5L V10. My guess for the V10 is 480 horsepower @ 8,000 RPM and 490 foot/pounds of torque @ 3,000 RPM but again I don't know for sure. What I am about 95 percent sure of is both of these engines will be mated to an all new ZF tiptronic six speed automatic overdrive transmission with sport mode and clutchless manual shift modes. I guess there is a possibility the A8 could get the S6s V10 but again I don't know for sure. What I am 100 percent sure of is the V10 and W12 (as well as the twin cam 3L V6 and four cam 3.7L and 4.2L V8) engines will have direct injection and FSI which prohibits and eliminates the need for 5V per cylinder technology and uses more conventional 4V per cylinder technology, making the V6 24V and V8s 32V. FSI and direct injection increses horsepower by 15 percent, torque by 15 to 20 percent and fuel economy by 8 percent. Oh and Audi is doing away with turbochargers completely for all petro (gasoline) engines.

Audi S5 TC

The 2004 A8s four cam 32V 4.2L V8 will have 345 horsepower not 310. As for torque my guess is 350 foot pounds but I don't know for sure. However the torque will be much more than 302 foot/pounds. The 4.2L V8 is supposed to recieve something called direct injection and FSI which increases horsepower by 15 percent, torque by 15 to 20 percent and fuel economy by 10 percent and most likely ULEV status. direct injection and FSI prohibit and eliminate the use for 5V per cylinder technology and uses more conventional 4V per cylinder technology. All of this information is from Meat Curry and I think his information is most likely the correct information. That website that says the new A8 will have the same four cam 40V 4.2L V8 with 310 horsepower and 302 foot/pounds of torque as the current A8 is incorrect. The revised V8 will be mated exclusively to a ZF tiptronic six speed automatic overdrive transmission with sport mode and clutchless manual shift modes. According to April/Verdegrrl on the A6/S6 board even Quattro CVT can't handle torque of V8 and up engines.