A8 / S8 (D3 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the D3 Audi A8 produced from 2003-2010 and Audi S8 produced from 2006-2010

Remote Radar and Laser Diffuser Install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 27, 2011 | 09:18 AM
  #1  
2008AudiA8L's Avatar
Thread Starter
Audiworld Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default Remote Radar and Laser Diffuser Install

I've got a Bel remote that I installed with the laser diffusers (its basically the same rebranded unit that was sold by Escort) and I know the laser diffuser has saved me at least twice. I was the only car on the highway each time when the officer fired laser at me (so he couldn't have been aiming at someone else) and I was travelling at least 25mph over the limit both times. In neither case did the officer pull out after me. I was going to post a "how to" guide a while back on this install but never did get around to it. Here are a few photos of the install, which took around 30hrs to complete (and yes I know the bumper was dirty when I was took the picture of the detector and diffuser heads ). The detector itself is a model from 2008, which I also used in my last car. The install would work just as well with the newer model of the remote detector now available.

Here is an overview of the sensors. They aren't seen when looking at the front of the car, except if you shine a flashlight (or camera flash) on them:



Here is the radar sensor, showing the brackets I made, and also the location of where it gets mounted. You have to move the right horn over and remount it, and the same also for the outdoor temp sensor, in order to be able to get the radar head positioned dead center behind the grill:





Here are the laser diffusers (x2), showing the brackets I made, and how they mount behind the grill. Unlike the radar sensor which gets mounted to some framing members on the car, the diffusers have to be mounted to the front nose assembly of the car itself in order for them to be positioned just behind the grill:









Here is the trim piece I made to mount the radar display inside the ashtray in the center console. Note that the ashtray door still opens and closes after the radar display is installed. For stealth reasons (including the temptation of thieves) I leave my ashtray door closed most of the time since the warning tones from the detector are plenty loud enough. If I am unsure whether its a false alarm or not, I'll pop open the tray and have a quick look and the display. The digital display is made up of red segmented leds so it matches the Audi dash lighing. I also have a remotely mounted mute switch on the left side of the driver's seat (not pictured in these photos). So I can mute the detector without having to look away from the road. I mounted it so that my hand naturally moves over it when I reach down for it:










Here the detector is hardwired to the rear of the fuse panel on the driver's side dash (red shrinkwrap is used over the soldered connection). Switched accessory power is used so the detector turns on and off automatically with the car.




This is just a photo showing the front nose removed so I can work on mounting the radar and laser diffuser heads. I found that a few unopened bags of mulch came in handy to hold the nose up straight and keep it steady. Clearly I dont recommend this install job for the weekend tinkerer. I was a pro-audio installer for 15 years when I was younger so I know how to work on an install like this. I'd rate the overall difficulty factor at about a 9 out of 10, but thats mostly because I had to make up all the bracketry from scratch including figuring out how everything would mount:

Reply
Old Nov 28, 2011 | 07:25 AM
  #2  
Vicl's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

I respect handy guys!
Your garage picture looks like mine
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 09:31 PM
  #3  
S8code3's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 310
Likes: 1
Default

Fantastic job - thanks for posting these pix and kudos! You have given me inspiration.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 09:34 PM
  #4  
S8code3's Avatar
AudiWorld Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 310
Likes: 1
Default

...until I found this (California law):

V C Section 28150 Jamming Electronic Speed Measuring Devices


Jamming: Electronic Speed-Measuring Devices

28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.
(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.

Added Sec. 1, Ch. 493, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 10:07 PM
  #5  
jakematic's Avatar
AudiWorld Super User
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,883
Likes: 5
From: NC USA
Default

Lots of state and Federal laws on the books like this criminalizing such activity against broadcasts.

See Communications Act of 1934, 1923, et al regarding reception of signals and re RMS Titanic.
Yet detectors are illegal in some places.

Best advice:
If you want to fly, go to a track day instead of risking life and property on the road.
Getting there five minutes quicker isn't worth it.

Pilot your Geman supercars wisely
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 10:47 PM
  #6  
mishar's Avatar
AudiWorld Super User
Tech Guru
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,831
Likes: 27
From: Vancouver, Canada
Default

Or fly to Germany, rent something nice and enjoy Autobahn. Few nice places to see too.
Reply
Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:13 PM
  #7  
2008AudiA8L's Avatar
Thread Starter
Audiworld Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default

Originally Posted by S8code3
...until I found this (California law):

V C Section 28150 Jamming Electronic Speed Measuring Devices
In my read of the statute, a violation for operation of such a device in your car is an infraction (see subsection c), just as is a speeding ticket. Bear in mind that the officer would first have to determine that you were in violation of the statute. If he did not get a speed reading on your vehicle then the chances of him pulling you over anyway just for further inspection of your car is a remote risk. On the other hand the enactment of that statute is further proof that such devices do in fact work.

As to the suggestion that one must always remain within the posted speed limit, whatever that number might be, or how it was decided, and regardless of whether road traffic and weather conditions would in fact permit safe operation at higher speeds than posted, that is a debate I will avoid engaging into at this time.

In any event, thanks for the positive feedback about my install. At some point I may try to locate a diferent plastic material to fabricate another trim panel around the radar display that matches better in texture to the switch surfaces nearby to it. Although since mostly I keep the tray door closed, its not super high on my list of immediate 'must-dos'. If anyone is interested in tackling the project feel free to PM me with questions. I did make a template of the trim plate that I can duplicate for you. All thats needed to cut it out is a dremel tool, a nice 9901 or 9903 carbide bit, a pair of round and flat bastard files, and a steady hand.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:27 AM
  #8  
JohnBoyToo's Avatar
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,440
Likes: 2
From: DFW, Tx
Default

I HATE talented people !!!

Your type always cost me money on things I didn't know I needed
and HAVE to have now !!!

The wife is loathe to follow speeding limits = maybe this will help.
Reply
AudiWorld Stories

Bringing Audi to Life for Audi Fans

story-0

Audi Unveils Absurdly Cool New Supercar: 10 Things You Need to Know!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

9 Audi Designs That Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

2026 Audi Q5 Buyer's Guide (Every Model Explained)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Ranking Every Current Audi 'S' Model From Worst to First!

 Joe Kucinski
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
audirb
A4 (B6 Platform) Discussion
1
Jul 1, 2003 06:23 PM
audirb
A4 Cabriolet (B6 Platform) Discussion
0
Jun 25, 2003 08:32 PM
Audiholio
A4 (B6 Platform) Discussion
0
Sep 5, 2002 05:35 AM
FlashTT's
TT (Mk1) Discussion
0
Nov 26, 2001 08:46 PM
Finman
A6 / S6 (C5 Platform) Discussion
1
Jun 26, 2001 12:06 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:43 PM.

story-0
Audi Unveils Absurdly Cool New Supercar: 10 Things You Need to Know!

Slideshow: Limited to just 499 units, the 987-horsepower halo car signals a new chapter for Audi performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-04 17:37:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
The Highs & Lows of Every Audi C-Class Generation

Slideshow: The highs and lows of every Audi C-Class generation.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:05:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Audis Ever Sold on Bring-A-Trailer

People were more than happy to shell out big bucks for these cars.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 15:32:23


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Audi Features & Options We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: 10 Audi features and options we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 19:33:47


VIEW MORE
story-4
Audi Recreates Crazy-Looking Speed Record Breaker From 1935

Slideshow: Audi has recreated one of the wildest machines of the pre-war speed-record era, reviving a streamlined V16 racer that originally exceeded 200 mph in 1935.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:49:34


VIEW MORE
story-5
Coachbuilder Recreates the 1995 Audi TTS Concept

Slideshow: A Dutch coachbuilder has reimagined the original Audi TT by finishing what the 1995 concept only hinted at.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-05 15:17:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every Audi V10 Car Ranked!

Slideshow: Ranking every Audi V10 road car

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:11:56


VIEW MORE
story-7
9 Audi Designs That Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: A look back at the Audis that didn't just survive changing tastes, they quietly outgrew them.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:38:27


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Audi Q5 Buyer's Guide (Every Model Explained)

One year off a full redesign, the best-selling Q5 is getting a few more updates.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-17 09:56:19


VIEW MORE
story-9
Ranking Every Current Audi 'S' Model From Worst to First!

Slideshow: Ranking every current Audi 'S' model on sale today from worst to best.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-16 10:28:28


VIEW MORE