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Old 11-24-2017, 01:44 PM
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I have owned other older Audi's and Vw cars in the past and i was able to use my cheap ebay obd2 cable with vcds lite to scan for errors etc. Is there a budget diagnostic cable available for the Audi A8 D3 ? Im not in need of at the moment but i would consider buying one as long as they are not too expensive.

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I think Carista is a cheaper option, but it depends on your definition of cheap. I use the HEX-CAN cable from Rosstech
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Carista is not a "cable" Rather, it is a bluetooth "dongle", which is a small device that fits in the OBDII socket. Installed, it protrudes on a 1/2" or so, unlike some other devices which you can bump loose with your knee.

The dongle itself sells for $40. You "read" the codes, etc on a smart phone by downloading a free app for either apple or android. It has served my purposes well, including recently enabling my hidden manual and resetting service reminder. It is entirely possible to scan while you are driving (note same caution as driving and texting). I only do it when stopped at intersections, etc). Carista will give codes and brief explanation, not just a number.

Above and beyond scanning, Carista offers a pro package for a yearly subscription of $39. With the pro package, you can do other things, including opening your electronic parking brake motors to replace rear pads. there are a few other recent features which enables gauge needle sweep on start up. (I'm not sure if this has any function other than to "look cool". Another option turns on you gauges lights as opposed to only lighting with headlights turned on.

Other "cheap" devices are in fact, a device with an attached cable and give codes only. These can be purchased from autoparts stores for as little as $20.
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Originally Posted by Jack88
I think Carista is a cheaper option, but it depends on your definition of cheap. I use the HEX-CAN cable from Rosstech
Thanks for the suggestion, the Carista is fine as far price goes but im not so sure about subsrcibing to the full service.

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Carista is not a "cable" Rather, it is a bluetooth "dongle", which is a small device that fits in the OBDII socket. Installed, it protrudes on a 1/2" or so, unlike some other devices which you can bump loose with your knee.

The dongle itself sells for $40. You "read" the codes, etc on a smart phone by downloading a free app for either apple or android. It has served my purposes well, including recently enabling my hidden manual and resetting service reminder. It is entirely possible to scan while you are driving (note same caution as driving and texting). I only do it when stopped at intersections, etc). Carista will give codes and brief explanation, not just a number.

Above and beyond scanning, Carista offers a pro package for a yearly subscription of $39. With the pro package, you can do other things, including opening your electronic parking brake motors to replace rear pads. there are a few other recent features which enables gauge needle sweep on start up. (I'm not sure if this has any function other than to "look cool". Another option turns on you gauges lights as opposed to only lighting with headlights turned on.

Other "cheap" devices are in fact, a device with an attached cable and give codes only. These can be purchased from autoparts stores for as little as $20.
Jim thanks for going into details regarding the Carista. It does sound ideal for basic needs. I dont know if i will ever need it for doing advanced things but reading and resetting fault codes is mainly what i would use it for. Im glad to say i have no engine lights on at the moment. I guess i could subscribe to the full app if something cropped up like the need to replace the brake shoes. It seems ideal for basic diagnostic use and well worth considering. Many thanks.

Is the only way to get a fully functioning cable by purchasing a genuine Rosstech cable?
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I do like the Rosstech cable, as there are a lot of other things you can do with it and nearly all of the assistance people offer here is based off of the idea of you using it. Also you can do a number of modifications to your car, including adjusting the ride height.
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Originally Posted by revelator1969
I have owned other older Audi's and Vw cars in the past and i was able to use my cheap ebay obd2 cable with vcds lite to scan for errors etc. Is there a budget diagnostic cable available for the Audi A8 D3 ? Im not in need of at the moment but i would consider buying one as long as they are not too expensive.

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Once you've bought an A8, the Ross Tech cable IS cheap, even at £300. I finally bought one two years ago and immediately regretted not buying one years beforehand; it's invaluable [had the car 9 years]

Bear in mind it's not just a fault reader; it does service resets, lets you adapt the control modules, check the state of the optical loop devices, read the battery manager logs and measure the control module data blocks in real time.

Wait and see when you get a light on in the panel; you'll realise how useful the VCDS is in diagnosing the fault. I very quickly identified a series of brake and ABS alerts [multiple red and yellow lights] as the rear right ABS sensor, by reading the ABS ECU in real time and discovering the right rear wheel speed was 0mph at road speed.

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Originally Posted by Jack88
I do like the Rosstech cable, as there are a lot of other things you can do with it and nearly all of the assistance people offer here is based off of the idea of you using it. Also you can do a number of modifications to your car, including adjusting the ride height.
Many thanks, adjusting the ride height would be great too.

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Once you've bought an A8, the Ross Tech cable IS cheap, even at £300. I finally bought one two years ago and immediately regretted not buying one years beforehand; it's invaluable [had the car 9 years]
Bear in mind it's not just a fault reader; it does service resets, lets you adapt the control modules, check the state of the optical loop devices, read the battery manager logs and measure the control module data blocks in real time.
Wait and see when you get a light on in the panel; you'll realise how useful the VCDS is in diagnosing the fault. I very quickly identified a series of brake and ABS alerts [multiple red and yellow lights] as the rear right ABS sensor, by reading the ABS ECU in real time and discovering the right rear wheel speed was 0mph at road speed.

Julian
Yes these cables sound great and a good investment if you have it over a long period of time. I have only used the cheap cables in the past and they were fine for basic fault scanning and clearing fault codes. If i got into a situation where i badly needed one then it is something i would consider. The Carista one should do the job for basic use and they are only £15.

Looking at the Ross Tech cable, the fact you only get to use it with 3 cars and you pay £225 this is daylight robbery, If you buy the cable you should be free to use it at many times as you wish and with as many cars as you wish. Im tempted to lower my car though as it does look good just sitting a little bit lower, i see many people have done this so i assume there is no negative affects of doing this.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VAG-COM-USB...cAAOSwtGlZJYgk

There are a lot of options on ebay like this. these work pretty good and don't break the pocket.
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Be careful, there are a lot of fraudulent products on ebay! The wrong ones will not be fully functional.
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Originally Posted by revelator1969
Im tempted to lower my car though as it does look good just sitting a little bit lower, i see many people have done this so i assume there is no negative affects of doing this.
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