4x100 thoughts???
01-02-2005, 12:25 PM
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4x100 thoughts???
the selection of 4x108 wheels is pretty minimal by comparison to 4x100 wheels.
Hubs are dirt cheap from EuroPartsDirect... Fronts are like $40 a pop and rears are like $30 a pop.
Is it safe to have a set of hubs machined with a 2nd set of threaded holes in them? I've seen a lot of double drilled wheels, and I havent heard any stories about double drilled aluminum wheels being dangerous. SO would it be safe to have a double drilled set of steel hubs? Obviously the hubs are much stronger than Aluminum wheels are, which leads me to suspect that that it might be okay, given that its done by a good machine shop with the proper tooling. And give that this would be at a 45 degree spacing, it seems to me that it ought to be safe.
The cost would be what $145 for new hubs and a few bucks for a shop to drill em? This is not for myself I have a A4 and am 5x112.
Hubs are dirt cheap from EuroPartsDirect... Fronts are like $40 a pop and rears are like $30 a pop.
Is it safe to have a set of hubs machined with a 2nd set of threaded holes in them? I've seen a lot of double drilled wheels, and I havent heard any stories about double drilled aluminum wheels being dangerous. SO would it be safe to have a double drilled set of steel hubs? Obviously the hubs are much stronger than Aluminum wheels are, which leads me to suspect that that it might be okay, given that its done by a good machine shop with the proper tooling. And give that this would be at a 45 degree spacing, it seems to me that it ought to be safe.
The cost would be what $145 for new hubs and a few bucks for a shop to drill em? This is not for myself I have a A4 and am 5x112.
01-02-2005, 12:42 PM
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okay... but why
its many times more expensive, the car this is for will probably never excede the torque capacity or weight capacity of a 4 lug hub... so why convert to a 5 lug hub when the car will most likely be getting new wheel bearings all around anyways.
01-02-2005, 01:31 PM
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Apparently found 4x100 wheels....
Older Audi's were 4x100.
Many Japanese cars are 4x100.
The Ford Focus uses 4x108 wheels.<ul><li><a href="http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/Cars/focus.htm">http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/Cars/focus.htm</a</li></ul>
Many Japanese cars are 4x100.
The Ford Focus uses 4x108 wheels.<ul><li><a href="http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/Cars/focus.htm">http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/Cars/focus.htm</a</li></ul>
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01-02-2005, 01:43 PM
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Most 4x100 use a 12x1.5 Lug-bolt...
Partial listing...
Acura Integra (all models) 1986-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nuts / 56.15mm Bore)
Chevrolet Spectrum 1986-1989 (4x100mm)
Daewoo Lanos 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 56.60mm Bore)
Daewoo Nubira 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 56.60mm Bore)
Dodge Colt (all models) 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Dodge Neon (all) 1995-1997 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 57.10mm Bore)
Geo Prizm Base / GSI 1998-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Geo Storm Base / GSI 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Honda Accord 1982-1989 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Honda Civic 80-2002-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Honda CRX 1982-1993 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Hyundai Accent GL/GS/L 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Isuzu I-Mark 1985-1990 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Isuzu Impulse 1989-1992 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Isuzu Stylus 1991-1992 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Rio Cinco Wagon 2002-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Sephia 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Spectra (all models) 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Mazda Miata, MX5 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Mazda Protege DX/LX/EX 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Mitsubishi Mirage 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Nissan Pulsar, Sentra 1986-1999 (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 59.10mm Bore)
Nissan 200 SX 1995-up (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 59.10mm Bore)
Plymouth Neon 4-lug 1994-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 57.10mm Bore)
Saturn SC, SL1, SL2, SC2 1991-up (4x100mm / 57.10mm Bore)
Suzuki Esteem 1995-up (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Toyota Celica 1986-1991 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Corolla 1996-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Echo 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota MR2 1986-1990 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Paseo 1994-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Tercel 1989-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf GL/Cabriolet 1985-1998 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf Cabriolet 1988-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf III Cabriolet 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Jetta GL/Carat/GLS/GLI 1981-1998 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Rabbit (all models) 1979-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Acura Integra (all models) 1986-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nuts / 56.15mm Bore)
Chevrolet Spectrum 1986-1989 (4x100mm)
Daewoo Lanos 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 56.60mm Bore)
Daewoo Nubira 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 56.60mm Bore)
Dodge Colt (all models) 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Dodge Neon (all) 1995-1997 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 57.10mm Bore)
Geo Prizm Base / GSI 1998-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Geo Storm Base / GSI 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Honda Accord 1982-1989 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Honda Civic 80-2002-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Honda CRX 1982-1993 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Hyundai Accent GL/GS/L 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Isuzu I-Mark 1985-1990 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Isuzu Impulse 1989-1992 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Isuzu Stylus 1991-1992 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Rio Cinco Wagon 2002-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Sephia 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Kia Spectra (all models) 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 56.10mm Bore)
Mazda Miata, MX5 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Mazda Protege DX/LX/EX 1990-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Mitsubishi Mirage 1993-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 67.10mm Bore)
Nissan Pulsar, Sentra 1986-1999 (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 59.10mm Bore)
Nissan 200 SX 1995-up (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 59.10mm Bore)
Plymouth Neon 4-lug 1994-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 57.10mm Bore)
Saturn SC, SL1, SL2, SC2 1991-up (4x100mm / 57.10mm Bore)
Suzuki Esteem 1995-up (4x100mm / 12x1.25 Lug-nut / 54.10mm Bore)
Toyota Celica 1986-1991 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Corolla 1996-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Echo 2000-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota MR2 1986-1990 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Paseo 1994-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Toyota Tercel 1989-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-nut / 54.06mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf GL/Cabriolet 1985-1998 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf Cabriolet 1988-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Golf III Cabriolet 1999-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Jetta GL/Carat/GLS/GLI 1981-1998 (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
Volkswagen Rabbit (all models) 1979-up (4x100mm / 12x1.5 Lug-bolt / 57.10mm Bore)
01-02-2005, 01:55 PM
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okay but if the hubs are being drilled they can be set to any dia or thread pitch desired
wonder what the Vanagon synchro pattern was....
in this case if the wheels are going to be M12 then the hubs can be drilled as M12 with the correct thread pitch for the lugs that are going to be used.
Obviously this will take some work, but its not beyond the resources that are available to me. Have to make sure the lugs are the correct length so they dont strike or have too few mating threads etc...
This is just an idea right now, however the selection of 4x100 wheels is far greater than the selection of 4x108, there is simply more demand for aftermarket wheels in this country for cars that are ue 4x100... why not take advantage of that if it can be done affordably and safely?
in this case if the wheels are going to be M12 then the hubs can be drilled as M12 with the correct thread pitch for the lugs that are going to be used.
Obviously this will take some work, but its not beyond the resources that are available to me. Have to make sure the lugs are the correct length so they dont strike or have too few mating threads etc...
This is just an idea right now, however the selection of 4x100 wheels is far greater than the selection of 4x108, there is simply more demand for aftermarket wheels in this country for cars that are ue 4x100... why not take advantage of that if it can be done affordably and safely?