steveracer

And I beg to differ...especially with the downshifts. On a manual, you can choose the exact point on the road you want to shift with good eye hand feet coordination. I don't get that feeling with my DSG. Now this is on the way to work and Home Depot driving, not 10-10th's stuff, but that may come this weekend as we had a nice significant snowfall that warrants some high speed touring. It is this type of motoring that the DSG needs to up and downshift with not only speed, but repeatable accuracy as to when you pull the lever and when it selects the gear and engages the clutch(es). I like this box because it allows me to ease on in to work with a cup of java, and ease on home in stop and go. Yet when I make my 9pm jaunts to the Home Despot, in the snow, I can turn off the abs and trac control crap and left foot it in confidence.

Don't get me wrong, for all intents and purposes the box is very fast. But when it doesn't know when you want to go up or down it may be iffy. As I said, I look forward to some weekend driving in the best conditions that a paved road can offer...fresh snowfall.

QGMika

it also maybe because I like to force DSG to shift at low rpms in tip mode to save gas. So when I kind of pick the wrong rpm to shift at there's a delay. I havent driven the car aggresively yet, but with my economical driving in tip mode I find there are definately delays.

QGMika

i just read the article.. downshifts take 600ms it says.. where did 40ms come from?

April

so it slurs the shift more. Just a thought.

April

Here is the reference to the upshifts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-clutch_Gearbox

http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/ic20428.htm

And downshift:

http://www.abrn.com/abrn/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=171097

http://eng.volkswagen-media-services.com/medias_publish/ms/content/en/pressemitteilungen/2005/04/27/double_benefit__tdi.standard.gid-oeffentlichkeit.html

MoroDave

... it rev-matches SO perfectly. It really is some amazing engineering. Still makes me smile after the first 2 months of ownership :-)

Ryan - that F1 is sweet! Beautiful color.

onuris

That implies adaptive logic, which i thought the A3 DSG doesn't have?

Troll2

what the shift time you define for the DSG is the clutch swap event. If you include synchronization the 'shift' can take up to .5seconds.
Again, shall I go into it?
Be careful what you quote.

Troll2

the Ferrari and the dual clutch are COMPLETELY different...

QGMika

so you're saying they shoudnt be compared to each other??