RS sports fixed suspension and RS sports exhaust
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RS sports fixed suspension and RS sports exhaust
Need some guidance.... what are the main differences between their standard version... beside the price.
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There's not much information about the "Standard" exhaust option other then the fact that it would include silver exhaust tips instead of the black. The standard exhaust will be something of a rarity for two main reasons. 1. The engine sound of the Inline 5cyl is a defining reason many have chosen the RS3 in the first place so people would tend to accentuate that aspect with the Sport exhaust selection. 2. In the US market at least it comes as part of the "Dynamic" package which is prerequisite for many of the other option boxes to be checked (Dynamic + package, Black Optic package, RS Design package) so I expect almost everyone to end up with the Sport Exhaust.
For what it's worth it appears that the Audi Dynamic Plus option pack (In the US) is sort of a Track Pack, in that it includes Carbon Ceramic Brakes, Fixed Suspension Dampers, Increase of the top speed limiter. The fixed suspension is almost certainly easier to tinker with as far as replacing the shocks/springs with coil-overs. I've read about some issues replacing suspension components on Mag ride vehicles due to the sensors for the magnetic system no longer being aligned/calibrated or even able to work with the newly installed components. Having said this it does appear that companies like H&R do indeed make lowering springs for the MAG equipped vehicles but specifically call out the difference with specific part numbers and ride height differences.
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Well the fixed suspension is in place of the magnetorheological dampers. The mag suspension offering in this case allows for adjusted presets via the Audi Drive Select system (Comfort, Auto, Dynamic, Individual)(And Economy mode in some markets). So in comfort mode the ride compliance can be made softer and when Dynamic mode is selected the dampers will firm up for maximum sport capability. The fixed suspension is just that a fixed damper rate on the suspension, most likely set to a medium hard level.
There's not much information about the "Standard" exhaust option other then the fact that it would include silver exhaust tips instead of the black. The standard exhaust will be something of a rarity for two main reasons. 1. The engine sound of the Inline 5cyl is a defining reason many have chosen the RS3 in the first place so people would tend to accentuate that aspect with the Sport exhaust selection. 2. In the US market at least it comes as part of the "Dynamic" package which is prerequisite for many of the other option boxes to be checked (Dynamic + package, Black Optic package, RS Design package) so I expect almost everyone to end up with the Sport Exhaust.
For what it's worth it appears that the Audi Dynamic Plus option pack (In the US) is sort of a Track Pack, in that it includes Carbon Ceramic Brakes, Fixed Suspension Dampers, Increase of the top speed limiter. The fixed suspension is almost certainly easier to tinker with as far as replacing the shocks/springs with coil-overs. I've read about some issues replacing suspension components on Mag ride vehicles due to the sensors for the magnetic system no longer being aligned/calibrated or even able to work with the newly installed components. Having said this it does appear that companies like H&R do indeed make lowering springs for the MAG equipped vehicles but specifically call out the difference with specific part numbers and ride height differences.
There's not much information about the "Standard" exhaust option other then the fact that it would include silver exhaust tips instead of the black. The standard exhaust will be something of a rarity for two main reasons. 1. The engine sound of the Inline 5cyl is a defining reason many have chosen the RS3 in the first place so people would tend to accentuate that aspect with the Sport exhaust selection. 2. In the US market at least it comes as part of the "Dynamic" package which is prerequisite for many of the other option boxes to be checked (Dynamic + package, Black Optic package, RS Design package) so I expect almost everyone to end up with the Sport Exhaust.
For what it's worth it appears that the Audi Dynamic Plus option pack (In the US) is sort of a Track Pack, in that it includes Carbon Ceramic Brakes, Fixed Suspension Dampers, Increase of the top speed limiter. The fixed suspension is almost certainly easier to tinker with as far as replacing the shocks/springs with coil-overs. I've read about some issues replacing suspension components on Mag ride vehicles due to the sensors for the magnetic system no longer being aligned/calibrated or even able to work with the newly installed components. Having said this it does appear that companies like H&R do indeed make lowering springs for the MAG equipped vehicles but specifically call out the difference with specific part numbers and ride height differences.
I am assuming that the "Sport Exhaust" ads black tips and makes the exhaust even louder/distinctive.
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I ordered and RS3 with the standard exhaust. From the April 6 press release Audi says: "In addition to its power output, Audi’s five-cylinder engine is known for its firing order and sound. The 1-2-4-5-3 ignition sequence produces a special rhythm and a distinct engine note that can be controlled by opening the flaps of the standard RS exhaust system."
I am assuming that the "Sport Exhaust" ads black tips and makes the exhaust even louder/distinctive.
I am assuming that the "Sport Exhaust" ads black tips and makes the exhaust even louder/distinctive.
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Obviously "too loud" is going to be entirely subjective, but in my opinion, the sport exhaust is just an enhancement. There's a bit more pop and gurgle, and it is noticeably louder, but not nearly as loud as some of the custom exhaust setups out there.
Mechanically, the standard variant has the valves, etc. The only change for the sport exhaust is the black tips and one added loop on the left hand exhaust structure. I'll see if I can dig up the pics that were posted showing it.
Here's a link to the best comparison I've found between stock exhaust, stock sport exhaust and sport exhaust with some additional modifications.
These are the pre-Facelift versions, so there's been a little tweak in the sound of the new ones, but this video is great because they got 3 cars lined up in exactly the same acoustic environment, so it gives you an idea of the difference in loudness between the different configs. Most other videos stick together cars in various locations, so they aren't as good of a comparison as this.
Mechanically, the standard variant has the valves, etc. The only change for the sport exhaust is the black tips and one added loop on the left hand exhaust structure. I'll see if I can dig up the pics that were posted showing it.
Here's a link to the best comparison I've found between stock exhaust, stock sport exhaust and sport exhaust with some additional modifications.
These are the pre-Facelift versions, so there's been a little tweak in the sound of the new ones, but this video is great because they got 3 cars lined up in exactly the same acoustic environment, so it gives you an idea of the difference in loudness between the different configs. Most other videos stick together cars in various locations, so they aren't as good of a comparison as this.
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Great info and thanks to all of you.
Does the sports exhaust increase horsepower? Or does it increase the turbo lag on the other hand?
The sports suspension is a pretty expensive option for me even it came with the creamic brake discs and I will skip for sure.
Does the sports exhaust increase horsepower? Or does it increase the turbo lag on the other hand?
The sports suspension is a pretty expensive option for me even it came with the creamic brake discs and I will skip for sure.
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Totally agree on the suspension. I probably would have added it as a standalone, but rolled in with the brakes was a no-go for me.
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I gotta believe based on the size of the loop, and just on general principle, that the difference would be negligible if any. I'm pretty sure this is an audio-only modification.
Totally agree on the suspension. I probably would have added it as a standalone, but rolled in with the brakes was a no-go for me.
Totally agree on the suspension. I probably would have added it as a standalone, but rolled in with the brakes was a no-go for me.
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I am thinking that the cost of ceramic bakes would have been more expensive than the $4500 option if it were not for swapping from magneto suspension to a fixed "tuned" suspension. Im betting the standard suspension other countries are getting are being sold off as an upgrade in the US. Im guessing if we had the option to build out the car with individual options that the cost of ceramic brakes and magneto suspension would bring the car to over 70k and its not competitive at that price point.
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Interesting marketing by Audi US; in Canada we can spec the Fixed suspension without Carbon Fibre brakes. The fixed suspension also brings the carbon fibre engine cover and the 280km/h limiter. I have to think the replacement & maintenance costs are high for Ceramic.