View Poll Results: Classic S5 or 2013 New S5
I like the classic 2010-2012 S5 Look w/ V8
92
62.59%
I like the new 2013 S5 Look with the 3.0 Supercharger
55
37.41%
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2009-2012 S5 vs 2013 S5
11-21-2011, 02:44 AM
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Exactly why I'm awaiting the 2012.5/2013 S5 with s/c V6 and s-tronic. The V8 certainly has a great sound, but that extra Hp is only useful for high speed on the autobahn or track. Give me stronger torque lower in the rev band for daily driver needs. I do wish they had stayed with the original styling however.
I could never understand why the need for the V-8. My Supercharged V-6 has got all the "giddy-up" the law allows or you would ever honestly need. Less weight, better gas mileage, better engine over all.
Unless you live near the Autobahn or in Montana, where and WHY do you need more speed ?? All it will buy you is trouble or an early ticket to the "Pearly Gates".
Unless you live near the Autobahn or in Montana, where and WHY do you need more speed ?? All it will buy you is trouble or an early ticket to the "Pearly Gates".
11-21-2011, 05:15 AM
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I could never understand why the need for the V-8. My Supercharged V-6 has got all the "giddy-up" the law allows or you would ever honestly need. Less weight, better gas mileage, better engine over all.
Unless you live near the Autobahn or in Montana, where and WHY do you need more speed ?? All it will buy you is trouble or an early ticket to the "Pearly Gates".
Unless you live near the Autobahn or in Montana, where and WHY do you need more speed ?? All it will buy you is trouble or an early ticket to the "Pearly Gates".
11-22-2011, 09:59 AM
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Owners of the Supercharger V6 are posting really low MPG. Seeing the MPGs, the V6 superchargers seem to eat more gas than the V8. I'm constantly getting 18.5 - 19 MPG for city driving on my V8 and heard the guys driving the V6 are pissed they are getting very low MPG, some claiming 12MPG. So, I don't think its cheap power.
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
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I think what he meant by "cheap power" is that you can get big HP gains with any forced induction car compared to a naturally aspirated engine. For example, it's cheap and easy to increase the boost pressure on a turbocharged car or a supercharged car and get big gains. To get the same kind of increase in power on a naturally aspirated engine would be much, much more expensive.
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
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I think what he meant by "cheap power" is that you can get big HP gains with any forced induction car compared to a naturally aspirated engine. For example, it's cheap and easy to increase the boost pressure on a turbocharged car or a supercharged car and get big gains. To get the same kind of increase in power on a naturally aspirated engine would be much, much more expensive.
For the S5 buyers/consumers, you will be paying higher prices for next year's model even with a cheaper engine, and more gas money for city driving. And in the long run, it's still a debate which will be a more reliable engine - naturally aspirated? or forced induction? I'm still voting for naturally aspirated engine for long-term reliability. How much will it cost to repair a broker supercharger once it's out of warranty? BMW extended their warranty for their turbos - will Audi do the same? Right now, it does not look like it.
In the end, consumer like you will be paying much higher, while Audi will pocket the profits for giving you a cheap engine for the S5. LOL.
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11-22-2011, 04:25 PM
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Owners of the Supercharger V6 are posting really low MPG. Seeing the MPGs, the V6 superchargers seem to eat more gas than the V8. I'm constantly getting 18.5 - 19 MPG for city driving on my V8 and heard the guys driving the V6 are pissed they are getting very low MPG, some claiming 12MPG. So, I don't think its cheap power.
I routinely get 23 mpg...........comb.hwy./ city.
11-22-2011, 09:24 PM
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The form of the current S5 is more seductive. But the upcoming S5 offer several significant improvements both in interior appointments and engine fuel efficiency.
The upcoming model offers enough of the original for me to still consider purchasing a S5. It is still a beautiful machine.
The upcoming model offers enough of the original for me to still consider purchasing a S5. It is still a beautiful machine.
11-24-2011, 06:11 AM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. For Audi, they save money and put that in their pocket, but not your pocket LOL.
For the S5 buyers/consumers, you will be paying higher prices for next year's model even with a cheaper engine, and more gas money for city driving. And in the long run, it's still a debate which will be a more reliable engine - naturally aspirated? or forced induction? I'm still voting for naturally aspirated engine for long-term reliability. How much will it cost to repair a broker supercharger once it's out of warranty? BMW extended their warranty for their turbos - will Audi do the same? Right now, it does not look like it.
In the end, consumer like you will be paying much higher, while Audi will pocket the profits for giving you a cheap engine for the S5. LOL.
For the S5 buyers/consumers, you will be paying higher prices for next year's model even with a cheaper engine, and more gas money for city driving. And in the long run, it's still a debate which will be a more reliable engine - naturally aspirated? or forced induction? I'm still voting for naturally aspirated engine for long-term reliability. How much will it cost to repair a broker supercharger once it's out of warranty? BMW extended their warranty for their turbos - will Audi do the same? Right now, it does not look like it.
In the end, consumer like you will be paying much higher, while Audi will pocket the profits for giving you a cheap engine for the S5. LOL.
I've actually owned 6 different turbo cars over the years and 3 supercharged cars. None of them ever once had an issue with the turbo/supercharger, so I don't see that as a concern at all. Sure, there's more complexity in a forced induction car, but the components are very robust and reliable. Not to mention an engine designed for forced induction is inherently "overbuilt" to withstand the additional loads associated with boost pressure.
11-24-2011, 11:47 AM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. For Audi, they save money and put that in their pocket, but not your pocket LOL.
For the S5 buyers/consumers, you will be paying higher prices for next year's model even with a cheaper engine, and more gas money for city driving. And in the long run, it's still a debate which will be a more reliable engine - naturally aspirated? or forced induction? I'm still voting for naturally aspirated engine for long-term reliability. How much will it cost to repair a broker supercharger once it's out of warranty? BMW extended their warranty for their turbos - will Audi do the same? Right now, it does not look like it.
In the end, consumer like you will be paying much higher, while Audi will pocket the profits for giving you a cheap engine for the S5. LOL.
For the S5 buyers/consumers, you will be paying higher prices for next year's model even with a cheaper engine, and more gas money for city driving. And in the long run, it's still a debate which will be a more reliable engine - naturally aspirated? or forced induction? I'm still voting for naturally aspirated engine for long-term reliability. How much will it cost to repair a broker supercharger once it's out of warranty? BMW extended their warranty for their turbos - will Audi do the same? Right now, it does not look like it.
In the end, consumer like you will be paying much higher, while Audi will pocket the profits for giving you a cheap engine for the S5. LOL.
11-26-2011, 03:03 PM
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Are you all out of your mind preferring the older v8 over this gem of a v6SC?
It not only delivers better performance and is easier on fuel but it sounds a bit like a Porsche 911 near the limiter.
It not only delivers better performance and is easier on fuel but it sounds a bit like a Porsche 911 near the limiter.