Car&Driver Instumented Test RS5 Coupe
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They pretty much boil it down. An uninvolving fast commuter car vs a more focused performance coupe that can also manage daily driving. Exactly my impression when I was taking it out into the canyons and on regular roads.
And this is why I visited the Mercedes dealer today and got my order started. The old RS5 was more along these lines. Calm for daily driving, but R8 like screaming engine and more oversteer dynamic in the canyons. The new RS5 is too neutral and characterless for me.
Their complaints about the dynamic steering are fairly common and I think a side-effect of testing the car. In normal daily driving, the ratio changes are really very natural. Speed doesn't change as drastically that the changing ratio is an issue. One's muscle memory learns quickly how much steering input is required in each situation. I've lived with the dynamic steering for 5+ years now and I wouldn't get another Audi w/o it. If you are driving dynamically say in the canyons where you change speeds quickly, the dynamic mode is the right mode, but when driving more balanced, comfort and auto work very well. Last weekend I was even driving in the canyons with the steering in Auto mode, because my wife was with me and I had to drive more consistent and calmer and no issue with changing ratios. When I'm out by myself, then I put it into dynamic in the canyons for good reasons. I've found the best mode for 90+% of driving is with the dynamic steering in Auto and the sport differential in Dynamic.
Only the Mercedes-AMG C63 comes close to matching the Audi's comfort.
The Mercedes-AMG C63 not only packs 59 more horsepower from a bawdy V-8, it does a better job managing its dual personality, acting like a traditional Mercedes when the driver is calm and transforming into a tire-eviscerating hooligan when the driver isn't.
Their complaints about the dynamic steering are fairly common and I think a side-effect of testing the car. In normal daily driving, the ratio changes are really very natural. Speed doesn't change as drastically that the changing ratio is an issue. One's muscle memory learns quickly how much steering input is required in each situation. I've lived with the dynamic steering for 5+ years now and I wouldn't get another Audi w/o it. If you are driving dynamically say in the canyons where you change speeds quickly, the dynamic mode is the right mode, but when driving more balanced, comfort and auto work very well. Last weekend I was even driving in the canyons with the steering in Auto mode, because my wife was with me and I had to drive more consistent and calmer and no issue with changing ratios. When I'm out by myself, then I put it into dynamic in the canyons for good reasons. I've found the best mode for 90+% of driving is with the dynamic steering in Auto and the sport differential in Dynamic.
Last edited by superswiss; 10-24-2018 at 05:30 PM.
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They pretty much boil it down. An uninvolving fast commuter car vs a more focused performance coupe that can also manage daily driving. Exactly my impression when I was taking it out into the canyons and on regular roads.
And this is why I visited the Mercedes dealer today and got my order started. The old RS5 was more along these lines. Calm for daily driving, but R8 like screaming engine and more oversteer dynamic in the canyons. The new RS5 is too neutral and characterless for me.
Their complaints about the dynamic steering are fairly common and I think a side-effect of testing the car. In normal daily driving, the ratio changes are really very natural. Speed doesn't change as drastically that the changing ratio is an issue. One's muscle memory learns quickly how much steering input is required in each situation. I've lived with the dynamic steering for 5+ years now and I wouldn't get another Audi w/o it. If you are driving dynamically say in the canyons where you change speeds quickly, the dynamic mode is the right mode, but when driving more balanced, comfort and auto work very well. Last weekend I was even driving in the canyons with the steering in Auto mode, because my wife was with me and I had to drive more consistent and calmer and no issue with changing ratios. When I'm out by myself, then I put it into dynamic in the canyons for good reasons. I've found the best mode for 90+% of driving is with the dynamic steering in Auto and the sport differential in Dynamic.
And this is why I visited the Mercedes dealer today and got my order started. The old RS5 was more along these lines. Calm for daily driving, but R8 like screaming engine and more oversteer dynamic in the canyons. The new RS5 is too neutral and characterless for me.
Their complaints about the dynamic steering are fairly common and I think a side-effect of testing the car. In normal daily driving, the ratio changes are really very natural. Speed doesn't change as drastically that the changing ratio is an issue. One's muscle memory learns quickly how much steering input is required in each situation. I've lived with the dynamic steering for 5+ years now and I wouldn't get another Audi w/o it. If you are driving dynamically say in the canyons where you change speeds quickly, the dynamic mode is the right mode, but when driving more balanced, comfort and auto work very well. Last weekend I was even driving in the canyons with the steering in Auto mode, because my wife was with me and I had to drive more consistent and calmer and no issue with changing ratios. When I'm out by myself, then I put it into dynamic in the canyons for good reasons. I've found the best mode for 90+% of driving is with the dynamic steering in Auto and the sport differential in Dynamic.
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This is my complaint for the S5. It's probably the best daily driver I've ever had, but it needs some character other than understeer. Dynamic Steering is awesome in day to day driving. I love it on my S5. It also ties into the Sport differential and the other systems as well. You get the most out of the safety systems with it equipped I believe.
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Fast, capable & no drama, that's what I want. On my S6, I keep the steering in dynamic mode, throttle in auto and my suspension/exhaust in comfort mode. Just pull back shifter to get sport mode throttle and transmission response. With AWD, one does not experience the wheel spin or traction control kicking in standing start acceleration, unlike RWD.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.
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Fast, capable & no drama, that's what I want. On my S6, I keep the steering in dynamic mode, throttle in auto and my suspension/exhaust in comfort mode. Just pull back shifter to get sport mode throttle and transmission response. With AWD, one does not experience the wheel spin or traction control kicking in standing start acceleration, unlike RWD.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.
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Fast, capable & no drama, that's what I want. On my S6, I keep the steering in dynamic mode, throttle in auto and my suspension/exhaust in comfort mode. Just pull back shifter to get sport mode throttle and transmission response. With AWD, one does not experience the wheel spin or traction control kicking in standing start acceleration, unlike RWD.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.
From the review:
" the Audi circled our skidpad as if rails were holding its two-ton mass on the line, recording 0.95 g of lateral grip with a complete absence of drama. "
"In the Dynamic setting, the steering locks into a fixed ratio that's much more confidence inspiring... set up the Individual parameters to include the Dynamic steering setting and whichever suspension, throttle, engine-sound, and rear-differential behaviors you prefer."
If the B9 S4 was available with the 2.9T, I would not be considering the RS5 SB to replace the S6.
If I wanted drama, I would get a Mustang GT350 with the 5.2-liter flat-plane-crankshaft V-8.