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02-13-2019, 03:00 PM
#21
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The RS5 is the best looking of the four cars even thought it is the slowest. Audi has always try to build a car that excels in all areas, not just the fastest.
02-13-2019, 04:29 PM
#22
We need to remember what the RS program is...a profit machine. Audi takes existing designs that are reliable and tunes them. Fair and straightforward its what they do. RS has followed this recipe for quite some time. However, of the options I heard:C63S - Rear wheel drive. (Great machine drove it on the autobahn late last year). @superswiss How are you expecting to fit a family of 4 with all of their luggage while driving around in Europe? And you based your buying decision whether you can drive the car around for two weeks? You keep your cars for so long that doesn't make sense. Can I repeat rear wheel drive?
To put it in perspective I was all over Europe, China, and Australia last year and drove a German car in every country. The most expensive rental was 1200 euro for a week in Germany. I do not see it with the European delivery program. Model 3? - Electric Motor and fit and finish of a play-doh sand castle. If you are looking at electric either wait for Audi in 2 years or buy model S now. At least the model 3 can be had in AWD flavor. Again, much smaller. Bonus: looks like a smooshed duck. Quad - I like this car a lot. I just wished a more reliable car manufacturer had built it for Alfa. Again, another RWD vehicle that is much smaller. Owning a car like this past 10,000 miles scares me to death. Sqeeks and rattles anyone?RS5 Sportback is the *best* grand touring car on the market right now. It has no competition. It is a bargain at $74K. Audi is first to this space here in the US at this price point, and they set the bar. BMW and MB will be coming and when they do there is no way their offerings will start at $74K.If you all haven't had the opportunity, test drives a Porsche panorama 4s and then test drive an RS5 Sportback. $25K savings. Of all the arguments I heard the one that makes the most sense is the S5 Sportback owners today because of the price difference is so steep. I can understand that, but comparing it to a) smaller cars, b) naturally aspirated cars or c) electric motors d) RWD is impressive.
To put it in perspective I was all over Europe, China, and Australia last year and drove a German car in every country. The most expensive rental was 1200 euro for a week in Germany. I do not see it with the European delivery program. Model 3? - Electric Motor and fit and finish of a play-doh sand castle. If you are looking at electric either wait for Audi in 2 years or buy model S now. At least the model 3 can be had in AWD flavor. Again, much smaller. Bonus: looks like a smooshed duck. Quad - I like this car a lot. I just wished a more reliable car manufacturer had built it for Alfa. Again, another RWD vehicle that is much smaller. Owning a car like this past 10,000 miles scares me to death. Sqeeks and rattles anyone?RS5 Sportback is the *best* grand touring car on the market right now. It has no competition. It is a bargain at $74K. Audi is first to this space here in the US at this price point, and they set the bar. BMW and MB will be coming and when they do there is no way their offerings will start at $74K.If you all haven't had the opportunity, test drives a Porsche panorama 4s and then test drive an RS5 Sportback. $25K savings. Of all the arguments I heard the one that makes the most sense is the S5 Sportback owners today because of the price difference is so steep. I can understand that, but comparing it to a) smaller cars, b) naturally aspirated cars or c) electric motors d) RWD is impressive.
Last edited by chicago_marketing; 02-13-2019 at 04:42 PM.
02-13-2019, 05:07 PM
#23
^^I had a different impression on the Model 3.
I'd put the fit/finish and refinement on these cars as:
I'd put the fit/finish and refinement on these cars as:
- RS5
- C63
- Tesla
- <<huge gap>>
- Alfa
02-13-2019, 05:12 PM
#24
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The fit and finish on my friend’s Quadrafolgio was fantastic. The entire interior was solid, and I was blown away by that. To me, Tesla has the most questionable fit and finish, and I don’t care for Tesla at all.
02-13-2019, 05:19 PM
#25
AudiWorld Super User
We need to remember what the RS program is...a profit machine. Audi takes existing designs that are reliable and tunes them. Fair and straightforward its what they do. RS has followed this recipe for quite some time.However, of the options I heard:C63S - Rear wheel drive. (Great machine drove it on the autobahn late last year). @superswiss How are you expecting to fit a family of 4 with all of their luggage while driving around in Europe? And you based your buying decision whether you can drive the car around for two weeks? You keep your cars for so long that doesn't make sense. Can I repeat rear wheel drive? To put it in perspective I was all over Europe, China, and Australia last year and drove a German car in every country. The most expensive rental was 1200 euro for a week in Germany. I do not see it with the European delivery program. Model 3? - Electric Motor and fit and finish of a play-doh sand castle. If you are looking at electric either wait for Audi in 2 years or buy model S now. At least the model 3 can be had in AWD flavor. Again, much smaller. Bonus: looks like a smooshed duck.Quad - I like this car a lot. I just wished a more reliable car manufacturer had built it for Alfa. Again, another RWD vehicle that is much smaller. Owning a car like this past 10,000 miles scares me to death. Sqeeks and rattles anyone?RS5 Sportback is the *best* grand touring car on the market right now. It has no competition. It is a bargain at $74K. Audi is first to this space here in the US at this price point, and they set the bar. BMW and MB will be coming and when they do there is no way their offerings will start at $74K.If you all haven't had the opportunity, test drives a Porsche panorama 4s and then test drive an RS5 Sportback. $25K savings.Of all the arguments I heard the one that makes the most sense is the S5 Sportback owners today because of the price difference is so steep. I can understand that, but comparing it to a) smaller cars, b) naturally aspirated cars or c) electric motors is impressive.
I'm not gonna go too much into the Model 3. I don't find EVs to fit my lifestyle currently and there are valid concerns regarding build quality etc, but you might underestimate it from a driving perspective. You should at least go drive one before dismissing it. It's a fun car to drive.
02-13-2019, 06:10 PM
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02-13-2019, 06:11 PM
#29
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Model 3 Performance: 0-60 3.3s, 1/4 11.8s
Quad: 0-60 3.6s, 1/4 11.9s
C63 S Coupe (MY19 as it's faster than MY18 thanks to the new transmission): 0-60 3.7s, 1/4 11.9s
RS5 Coupe: 0-60 3.7s, 1/4 12.4s
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02-14-2019, 03:05 AM
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Interesting commentary!
i looked at a model 3, not impressed. I’d really miss the dash and gauges. Too distracting plus the interior was rather sterile.
The quadrifoglio would be awesome but I need awd.
I came across a preowned s4 prestige ‘18, min miles saves 15k over brand new similarly equipped s4, Daytona pearl on magma red (drooling) that looks like it has the sport package. Is there a site I can run the VIN to get the window sticker?
i looked at a model 3, not impressed. I’d really miss the dash and gauges. Too distracting plus the interior was rather sterile.
The quadrifoglio would be awesome but I need awd.
I came across a preowned s4 prestige ‘18, min miles saves 15k over brand new similarly equipped s4, Daytona pearl on magma red (drooling) that looks like it has the sport package. Is there a site I can run the VIN to get the window sticker?