Waseem // TMK

anyone selling a tip allroad? if so - year - mileage - location + asking price please. tia

MtTAMar

There are 6 on eBay today, FYI, all Tips

2tu®bos1mission

<center><img src="http://www.fredbakerporscheaudi.com/data/content/images/cars/18658(3).jpg"></center><p>It's audi assured. You could probably get it for $39,900.

markcincinnati

My dealer says UNLESS you are paying cash, it is less money to lease an '03 than finance or lease a used allroad.

I have not gone into this concept any deeper than this but there is some logic to this notion -- the deals on the new cars are fantastic, especially NOW.

So, unless you are dumping the cash out all at once or can get literally 0% financing, go for the '03 -- if you believe my dealer. And, BTW he does have at least one used allroad on the lot -- it has been there forever -- all options, atlas grey.

Low miles (12K, I think).

itacud

So you wouldn't need to find 0% financing, for a used car to cost less money than a new one.

A 5% used car rate (through a Credit Union) and a sale price of &lt; 98% of new, should do the trick on a 60m loan. =)

markcincinnati

I spoke with my salesrep who sells both Porsche's and Audi's -- he says that over 75% of the cars the dealership sells are leases. The monthly payment, term and cash out are THE deal makers.

His comment, which I have not really evaluated is that he is having difficulty "getting deals done" even on late model low milage cars because the "monthly" number is 'so close' for new versus used (and in the cases of Porsches and the higher dollar Audi's ($40K plus) -- that it doesn't make much sense for a customer who is NOT paying cash to look at the used car.

And, he says it is so acute -- right now -- that the dealership will no longer buy used cars for inventory. Something that he has never seen before.

All my "cursory" calculations (based on late model Audis) seems to favor new versus used if "buying" is not the type of acquisition.

In other words it seems to be less money out of pocket to rent the new one for X months than the used one.

itacud

I almost feel like leasing a small car just for fun! =)

But, since Waseem//TMK is looking to buy, he may be upset about spending all that lease money only to have to return his no-longer-new allroad when it's all over. =)

audidkw

Wonder if they are "wobbly."

martinAR

Assuming that you like a $35K AR (like the ones from ebay)
4.9% x 60 months for a $35K loan it's $655/month. A new AR will be way more money...(to buy, not lease)
I'm using peoplefirst.com to calculate the amounts