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Old 08-16-2007, 04:41 AM
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Here's the deal. When I start the engine cold, the starter turns for 3-4 seconds; half of the time the engine fires-up, and the other half of the time the engine stalls. I then re-attempt starting, and the engine fires-up.

Here's some background info:

1. New fuel pump

2. New FPR

3. Fuel pump is receiving appropriate electrical current

4. Even if I put the ignition in the "on" position for a few seconds prior to starting to allow the fuel pump to build pressure, it'll sometimes stall when starting.


I'm stumped. Clearly, I've been treating this as a fuel delivery issue and it may not be. Ideas?

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Old 08-16-2007, 05:23 AM
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POS?
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Default First step; check codes.

Next, study the FAQ.
Old 08-16-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default I do not think that the fuel pump starts until...

The ECU gets signals from the crank and cam position sensor. Turning on the ignition and waiting for fuel pump pressure to build wont make a difference.
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Default Acutally, it runs for a brief second or two when the key is first turned on to pressurize the system

Then it shuts off and performs as you stated.
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Default Thanks Tom, I know my 12V did that but I cannot hear the pump on the S6 when I turn the key

I guess that is a good thing. Probably means that my pump is still in good shape.
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thanks, mom. but seriously, the only code is 2111 - which can be caused by cranking w/o starting.
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I do NOT believe that. The J17 is triggered by the ECU which is triggered by the CamPositionSensor.
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POS will not stop the car from starting. It just causes it to run like cr@p
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Default that being the case....

Problems could still be:

1. Fuel delivery / pressure (despite new pump / FPR / proper voltage)

2. CamPositionSensor (despite no codes other than 2111)

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I'm stumped.


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