UR S6 Timing Belt Being done at shop. Do I need to do the Crankshaft and other Seals? Shop is sayin
06-25-2007, 05:03 PM
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UR S6 Timing Belt Being done at shop. Do I need to do the Crankshaft and other Seals? Shop is sayin
g that to do the Crank Shaft Seal is an ADDITIONAL 3 hours which is highway robbery since they are doing the Timing belt . I called the dealer and they would only charge me an extra 1/2 hour. The shop that has the car says do not replace any of the seals unless they are leaking. There is a crankshaft seal (Supplied by BLAU parts) but the other seals did not come with the kit. How much extra labor should it be? As it is they are charging me 3.5 hours to do the timing belt.
06-25-2007, 06:22 PM
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I was supprised how easy it is....
I used the old tap and twist in two wood screws (carefully) and pry on them at the same time method... and it worked rather well.
You will need a deep socket or the special tools to tap the new ones into place.
Realistically took me 20-30 mins to do both. 3 hours is a little rediculous.
I used a (TINY) dab of vasalene on the inside of the seal to help it slide into place. Was that wrong??
You will need a deep socket or the special tools to tap the new ones into place.
Realistically took me 20-30 mins to do both. 3 hours is a little rediculous.
I used a (TINY) dab of vasalene on the inside of the seal to help it slide into place. Was that wrong??
06-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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The chef is right, you never lube the outside of a seal unless.....
you want it to pop out, leak and spin. The crank sprocket is not designed to hold the seal in. In fact it would just spin it around when it popped out.
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06-25-2007, 08:56 PM
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The whole deal sounds a little sketchy
A. What shop in there right mind would only charge 3.5 hours for a t-belt on one of these cars when that is how long book time is on a Civic with no air, assuming they are at least doing the water pump too like they should be.
B. Adding three hours for a crank seal, well thats just retarded. And it also goes to show they are not confident in there work enough to replace a seal. With all due respect I think that could be the only reason why you would not replace a seal as a service item on a 12 to 15 year old car when you have it all apart. At our shop we replace seals on everything we take apart and usually charge an extra half and hour for both the cam and crank seals regardless what kind of car it is.
C. In my opinion the job is a 5 hour job and the labor should include replacing, the t-belt, water pump, front seals, tensioner bearing, thermostat and serpentine belt. Replacing any less than this is not doing a thorough job in my opinion.
D. I hope they do a good job for you but I would think about looking for another shop if they want to charge you an extra three hours for a crank seal.
B. Adding three hours for a crank seal, well thats just retarded. And it also goes to show they are not confident in there work enough to replace a seal. With all due respect I think that could be the only reason why you would not replace a seal as a service item on a 12 to 15 year old car when you have it all apart. At our shop we replace seals on everything we take apart and usually charge an extra half and hour for both the cam and crank seals regardless what kind of car it is.
C. In my opinion the job is a 5 hour job and the labor should include replacing, the t-belt, water pump, front seals, tensioner bearing, thermostat and serpentine belt. Replacing any less than this is not doing a thorough job in my opinion.
D. I hope they do a good job for you but I would think about looking for another shop if they want to charge you an extra three hours for a crank seal.
06-26-2007, 03:08 AM
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Beyond crazy. The lower pulley is off anyway. You are already looking right at the seal.
Half an hour leaves 15 minutes for a coffee break. Clearly your shop knows next to nothing about this job. Do you have an alternative?