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Old 04-13-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Someone here has no concept of displacement

My 2.7 B5 S4 delivers 309 hp from a "V6" and is quite drivable. This engine is capable of over 400 hp from only 6 cylinders.

Audi's RS4 V8 delivers 420 hp with no forced induction.

The Japanese sleds are nowhere near the European cars.

300 hp from 3.5 liters unblown is no big deal these days as long as the engine uses direct injection.
Old 04-14-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default HP is less important in these days of heavy cars, than torque - at low rpms. That's something

only displacement or forced induction (traditionally supercharging) can do. Audi traditionally has used long stroke engines to help offset the driveline losses involved with awd. Unfortunately, until recently, they also often chose tall autobahn biased gearing for relaxed cruising and relative fuel economy (given driveline losses), which meant they weren't the fastest out of the gate.

My F355 with 3.6 litres, puts out about 375hp. But with a short stroke motor, depends on fairly short gearing to make up for the lack of torque down low. Most Japanese cars get a tad breathless around 80mph, which is where many European cars start to wake up. Yeah, the high HP count looks good on paper, but for real world every day driving, I look at torque figures first.
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Default And unfortunately people still look at hp numbers

But for the informed, it's the torque that matters, hence I want a diesel
Old 04-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default A naturally aspirated 3.5 L engine gets 300 HP, and we're talking a supercharged V6 at 330 HP.

I'm not impressed. It's not bad, but it's not anything to boast about, that's all.

And you know what? GM's LS7 powerplant that makes 500 HP and delivers warranty is very impressive indeed.

Corvette still gets close to 30 mpg on the highway while being able to deliver torque that will snap your neck and run 11's in the quarter mile.
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Default You should talk about hp/liter. Audi does > 100 hp/liter with the RS4/R8 engine.

How about your Japanese friends?
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