nav+ installation in norcal?

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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Has anyone purchased the after-market Nav+ and had it professionally installed?

I'm a new RS6 owner, and recently picked up my car last week. Dealer options included basic Nav and the in-dash CD changer. Because I'm not good with cars and don't want to mess up my Audi, I'd prefer to have it done by someone else.

My understanding Nav+ is compatible with the PhatBox, and looking forward to having both installed. I've read the Nav+ website, and waiting to hear back from Avalon Motorsports.

Anyone else with Nav+? I'm kinda excited to see it happen.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Ask dsy, he has installed a bunch
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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Default Yep - bin there done that (except for the RS6 part :)

After using the Navi in my wife's Lexus I got a serious case of "GPS envy" - it was so convenient we were taking all our road-trips in the "other car" - had to do something about that !

So I followed a post on AudiWorld and ended up on the Nav+ web-sites too. I did both the Navi+ & Phatnoise myself. It's a piece of cake !
But keep in mind the cars internal cabling will have to be cut & resoldered no matter if it's done professionally or whatever - the wiring/sockets are simply not a plug & play match.

The nicest thing was I found a much better way to install the GPS Antennae than what they suggest on the Navi+ web-site - ripping out the car seats to lay a cable is a bit too extreme for me :~S

Avalon part & installation charges are crazy (that's another reason I did it myself). Let me know if you wanna demo, and a look inside at the wiring changes, before investing ;-)

Send me mail and we can meet somewhere - I'm in South Bay
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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Email me for some info.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Default since he has the factory NAV, he won't need to worry about any wiring for the GPS right?

although I could be wrong as I'm not too familiar with the internals of an RS6 or the US spec NAV.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Default The US (i.e. antiquated) Nav system is in the boot, the Navi+ is in the front console & incl Ste

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/58573/imgp1288a.jpg"></center><p>So the cable for the GPS antanna runs to the wrong place.

Even if they were located in the same place, since the Navi+ has Audio/Video functionality as well as Navi it has different connectors &amp; wiring from the current system : one box for Audio, separate box for Navi.

Look in the Bentley CD-ROM for details of the old Nav connector and then look at the Symphony II connectors - you'll see what I mean.

The problem I found was that the connector pins are impossible to remove after the connector is wired up, so if one pins changes you still need to cut &amp; re-solder. You can see this in the pictures on Navi+ web-site too.

The only good news is that if you already have Navi you probably already have a CAN gateway in the instrument cluster. This gives you the directions in the cluster, while the map or other screen is displaying (see attached picture) - otherwise you have to click a button on the Navi to flip the screen.
Because my car wasn't configured for Navi I had to run those cables and install a TMC/CAN gateway on my own.

The important thing is to do a good job with re-wiring i.e. seal with shrink-wrap, secure with wire-ties, run inside the cable harness.

My dealer took a look at what I did and didn't have a problem with it, but he told me of some other horror stories e.g. shorting out the wiring harness with aftermarket (non-Audi) Navi.
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