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Old 02-12-2004, 08:02 PM
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Default 2004 1.8T 6-speed - 01E?

Just wondering if we've determined yet for sure if the 6-speed in the '04 A4 is a 01E. If so, the real question then becomes, will it drop in as a replacement for the stock 5-speed 01A found in the earlier ('02-3) B6's, requiring nothing other than a tranny swap?

I know my other option is going with the S4 6-speed, but I understand that requires a driveshaft and rear diff from the donor car as well.

Anyone know what a CBL or CRB 6-speed is? Someone was posting these for sale elsewhere.
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Default I don't think it's been determined yet....

my guess is that it's an 01E, and will still require at least a driveshaft.

Here's a breakdown of the trans codes for 01Es:
<a href="http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/photos/cars/01E/ind2.html" target="_blank">http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/photos/cars/01E/ind2.html</a>

And even more info:
<a href="http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/" target="_blank">http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/</a>

CRB is the coveted RS2 trans that we all wish we had. Pretty rare, and usually go for $3K and up, and require a little more work to install compared to the S4 trans.
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Default I don't recall the exact trans codes, but sweet-talking a tech at the dealer will.....

get you far. All the trans codes, final drive ratios, etc are on AESIS, and will tell you everything you need to know.

I do remember the '04 B6 6 speed is available in the same final drive ratio (3.73:1?), and would require a center drive shaft &amp; shift linkage/stabilizer for the transplant in my opinion.
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Default I don't have anything available to garner information on the 04 transmissions but I would bet it is

still an 01E box. The link is to some info on the 02 and 03 01E B6 boxes<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/1879333.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/1879333.phtml</a</li></ul>
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Default Final drive on the B6 5-speed is a 3.889

I'm not sure if it's the same on the '04 6-speed, but what's not clear to me is why that matters, aside from speedo accuracy. Is it a software thing, or is there something in how the diff's of a different ratio count to the drive-train?
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Default I think someone needs to try this in the near future.

There seams to be quite a few of us interested in this idea. If my tranny does cr@p out soon I might have to pioneer this one.
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Default A different final drive means you have to change the rear diff as well

The S4s have a 4.111 as opposed to the 3.889 in the A4s, so we have to install an S4 rear end with an 01E box
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Default But Why???

Thanks John, I recall you mentioned this before in our off-line conversation. I'm just wondering, like the proverbial 6 year-old, WHY? Is there an absolute technical requirement that the 4.111 rear and DS from the same car that donated the 01E be swapped in, or is it just a "practical requirement" as the gearing would otherwise be too wrong?
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Why? A newer box will merely command a higher dollar. Go with a NeuS4 6 speed and save a few $$ IMO
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Default The two differentials (tranny and rear end) are mechanically linked. They must turn at the same

ratio front and rear. You can't have the front turning at a ratio of 4.111 turns to 1 and the rear at 3.889 turns to one ..


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