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What do you want? No offense but
You wanna autoX so you are gonna gut the car - no a/c or stereo etc, but you dont want a drag car - just something fun to drive? To top it off you have an automatic? huh?
I think you have to figure out what you really want and perhaps get a ride in a stage III/T-28 A4 so you can see what kind of power to expect...
In the end - the Automatic has got to go - IMHO
I think you have to figure out what you really want and perhaps get a ride in a stage III/T-28 A4 so you can see what kind of power to expect...
In the end - the Automatic has got to go - IMHO
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Re: What do you want? No offense but
sorry bout my explanation
ok ill be a little clearer
Im planning the car before i get one. So manual or automatic are both choices currently. Im gonna gut it and do weight mods to compensate for the weight of the car. The car needs to be fairly quick to do like a weekend a road racing circuit, no drag racing.
As far as the transmission goes, I hate manuals, im only 18 and i guess its my experience but I know how to drive a manual, and have a few times and I just suck at it basicly. I always am having a hard time trying to decide when to upshift and downshift at the optimum times. It sounds stupid to screw over the shifting performance up with an auto, but I just cant handle a manual. Maybe a tip chip is in order? Also whats wrong with the tiptronic if 350+ hp porsches use them?
oh almost forgot:in response to the comment about taking a ride in an a4 with a stage 3 or t28, how fast can the a4 go with either of these kits?
ok ill be a little clearer
Im planning the car before i get one. So manual or automatic are both choices currently. Im gonna gut it and do weight mods to compensate for the weight of the car. The car needs to be fairly quick to do like a weekend a road racing circuit, no drag racing.
As far as the transmission goes, I hate manuals, im only 18 and i guess its my experience but I know how to drive a manual, and have a few times and I just suck at it basicly. I always am having a hard time trying to decide when to upshift and downshift at the optimum times. It sounds stupid to screw over the shifting performance up with an auto, but I just cant handle a manual. Maybe a tip chip is in order? Also whats wrong with the tiptronic if 350+ hp porsches use them?
oh almost forgot:in response to the comment about taking a ride in an a4 with a stage 3 or t28, how fast can the a4 go with either of these kits?
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OK I understand now
I did the same thing, planned out the K04 before I even got my A4...
The A4 is heavy which makes it slower than comparable cars, but it is the luxury that makes it worth it. In my opinion - if you want to pull out the amenities, you may as get a WRX - lighter and faster with more potential.
In terms of the trannie - everyone has trouble until they get used to a stick... Eventually it becomes second nature and you will wonder how you ever considered an automatic. A stick can handle more HP, it is faster, can improve handling, and basically improve the overall driving experience... re-consider it.
The Tiptronic needs a Tip Chip for a K04 and needs a Level 10 upgrade (~$1000 iirc) for a stage III/T-28. You can do a search for info on that. BTW - I believe that the Tiptronic that is in the porsche is a different unit.
I included a link to the A4 timeslip database - it seems that you can do mid 13s w/ a stage III/T-28. I am still waiting on my T-28 - then I can tell you from personal experience. A K04 can do mid 14s - w/ a bad clutch my best was 14.8.
Use the search feature there is an unbelievable amount of info here... Good luck!!<ul><li><a href="http://www.kahloz.net/gjaime/time/newlist.htm">A4 Timeslip Database</a></li></ul>
The A4 is heavy which makes it slower than comparable cars, but it is the luxury that makes it worth it. In my opinion - if you want to pull out the amenities, you may as get a WRX - lighter and faster with more potential.
In terms of the trannie - everyone has trouble until they get used to a stick... Eventually it becomes second nature and you will wonder how you ever considered an automatic. A stick can handle more HP, it is faster, can improve handling, and basically improve the overall driving experience... re-consider it.
The Tiptronic needs a Tip Chip for a K04 and needs a Level 10 upgrade (~$1000 iirc) for a stage III/T-28. You can do a search for info on that. BTW - I believe that the Tiptronic that is in the porsche is a different unit.
I included a link to the A4 timeslip database - it seems that you can do mid 13s w/ a stage III/T-28. I am still waiting on my T-28 - then I can tell you from personal experience. A K04 can do mid 14s - w/ a bad clutch my best was 14.8.
Use the search feature there is an unbelievable amount of info here... Good luck!!<ul><li><a href="http://www.kahloz.net/gjaime/time/newlist.htm">A4 Timeslip Database</a></li></ul>
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Re: OK I understand now
thanks for the info, 1000 bucks is alot, but if its for something as important as the transmission i think itll be worth it. anyone have a link or more info on this tiptronic upgrade?
My engine plans so far now are:
97 or 98 a4 1.8T quattro
T28
FMIC with watercooler
http://www.autospeed.com/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?category=705&
illegal exhaust-if they dont check it aint illegal
maybe underdrive pulley?
My engine plans so far now are:
97 or 98 a4 1.8T quattro
T28
FMIC with watercooler
http://www.autospeed.com/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?category=705&
illegal exhaust-if they dont check it aint illegal
maybe underdrive pulley?
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I should also mention
Call PES - they will tell you about the T-28 on a Tip. I believe that they have a differnet T-28 chip for the tip which gives a little less boost as not to fry the Tip Trans. I did not mention this becasue it seems like HP is your priority... Also the level 10 upgrade is more $$ than I thought I included a link.
Last thing - I would try to get a 98.5 if your budget allows. There are improvements in the A4 along the way - with 98.5 and especially 99.5 having the bigest number of changes. Do a search for more info.<ul><li><a href="http://www.levelten.com/">Level 10 upgrade</a></li></ul>
Last thing - I would try to get a 98.5 if your budget allows. There are improvements in the A4 along the way - with 98.5 and especially 99.5 having the bigest number of changes. Do a search for more info.<ul><li><a href="http://www.levelten.com/">Level 10 upgrade</a></li></ul>
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you got syncro gears, not like you are driving 13 gear non sycro found on trucks.
auto gives you no control - if you want to autocross, you will be forever handicaped if you go with automatic.
practice manual, it will become easier with more shifts.
practice manual, it will become easier with more shifts.
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