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Old 08-27-2004, 09:10 AM
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Default Cant find one within a reasonable distance of Chas WV

And TJM car was doing over 500 lbft when he was running the Motorsport crank. My block is much stronger than his.. Altho he will be coming out soon with something comparable . very soon

I am basing it on comments from the guys at TJM who tuned the engine I built and some felt it pulled as hard or harder on pump than his did on race. But, in the 1st Calif test Tim backed off 1300 rpm before redline and supposedly there was another 50hp in the 7400-8700 range. He is running solid lifters and a radical cam so I am sure I am not making more than his when he is running the full monty on race. I also based it on Tims trap speed of 108 and I ran a 106 and fully missed 4th gear 60 yards from the finish, altho the differential could be my tranny which has a closer 3rd and 4th gear.
If someone will point me to a dyno close, I will certainly settle it. Either way, it is all anyone could want from a daily driver that still runs AC,
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:13 AM
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I wish I had a chance to run against tim at the challenge. We did talk about our 2 cars and he knows that my car is making alot more power at the drags then it does on the dyno. I guess my trap speeds pretty much point that out, even running into a 15 mph head wind at the challenge I was still able to put down 109 mph. I would have loved to have seen his car run in the same conditions so we can get a chance to compare his runs here vs back east.

Well cant wait to see what you do make on a dyno or any full runs at the drags.
Old 08-27-2004, 11:51 AM
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Default I've done a few passes at 106....

and I have nowhere near 500hp or 500 ft-lbs.

Obviously there will be a slight variation between two different tracks, but it's not going to be as big of a variation between 350hp and 500hp. For 500HP, I expect MPH numbers MUCH higher than 106 or 108
Old 08-27-2004, 11:59 AM
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Default 500HP is more like 120, no?

Agh, just go by trap speeds.
Old 08-27-2004, 12:40 PM
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Default Did you read my post? I missed 4th 60-70 yards from end and coasted in?

So you cant really tell much from the trap speed except that 3rd was good for around 112. Sorry I didnt have a good pass but the car only had 5-600 miles when we ran it at WFest, and it has enough power to loosen up and break things like mounts and it also loosens bolts like crazy. But it will be sorted by next yr. I will dyno it if I can find a 4 wheel near Chas. WV.

Didnt have a single pass where I hit all 4 gears because of broken motor mount and weak snub mount. I am correcting that as we speak but need a new brace for the front of engine and snub. Still too much movement in tranny, and the shift linkage is attached to the body. The block we used is certainly a monster though.
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Default He he, I was thinking feet....

what does TJM have for HP to be running 108's?

I have the bolt-loosening syndrome too, the turbo to manifold bolts kept loosening and blowing gaskets, plus the wastegate bolts. Studs and locknuts seem to have fixed the problem though (hopefully)
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Red loctite.
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108 mph trap in an AWD ~3100 lb vehicle is ~285-300 whp.
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Default I dont see how that is true

a rear wheel car that is 3100 lbs running 108 mph will be making 314 whp. So the AWD car will have to be making about 10% more power to run the same mph as the rwd car. Here is a link so you can double check for a rwd car with your #'s.

That rwd car making 314 whp at 3100 lbs will run 12.6 at 108 mph.

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I put in my 114 mph trap speeds for a 3200 lbs car and it says that at those speeds a rwd car will be making 370 whp.<ul><li><a href="http://www.rpmoutlet.com/dyno.htm">http://www.rpmoutlet.com/dyno.htm</a></li></ul>
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Default That would be 500 to the wheels not at the crank.

A rwd 3200 lbs car running 120 mph will need 431.5 whp.


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