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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Especially with 1.7% APR for 60 months.
Was this APR done through Audi? The best they quoted me was 2.9% for 60 months. Do you mind me asking which Audi gave you this APR? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by wrcardon
So I picked up my Monsoon grey 2014 SQ5 TFSI (Nappa black interior, 21" Wheels, Carbon Atlas, Nav, Audi Side assist, B&O)

Photos coming...
Thanks for taking the time to share your observations & reactions. All very interesting. I too wish that Audi had the cojones to bring the bi-turbo TDI SQ5 to this side of the Atlantic. And, of course, our SQ5s should have the same ride as in Europe regardless of the engine.

Looking forward to your pics.

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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To be honest, it is an amazing fun car (SUV)... you really have to be careful with the speed as it is deceptively smooth. I have caught myself over the speed limit several times now not realizing how fast it accelerated. Very very smooth ride. The Cayenne S was more harsh and threw you back in the seat, this car is so smooth you don't realize what you just threw down.
I know *exactly* what you mean here!

A tip: Set the speed limit warning in the MMI.
I initially set mine to 140km/h (which is 40km/h over our max speed limit and the point at which you get an instant suspension if caught), and I found myself exceeding that EASILY without realizing it.

I've since set it to 130km/h to be safe.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alatsacto
Was this APR done through Audi? The best they quoted me was 2.9% for 60 months. Do you mind me asking which Audi gave you this APR? Thanks.
Audi Finance did it. I have a VERY strong credit rating and came to the table with a competing rate from my bank.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Was this APR done through Audi? The best they quoted me was 2.9% for 60 months. Do you mind me asking which Audi gave you this APR? Thanks.
I told the dealer that I could get 1.99% for 72 months from a credit union I belong to (which is the truth). They shopped my loan around and got me 1.94% @ 72 months... which I was very happy with...
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Audi Finance did it. I have a VERY strong credit rating and came to the table with a competing rate from my bank.
I was preapproved by my Credit Union for 2.79% for 60 months. Plus my wife and I individually have over 800 credit score rating, but they weren't even willing to move the small amount from their 2.9% for 60 months. They basically told me, if you can do better, then go with them, but you may find difficulties getting a bank to give you a loan for a car doing European Delivery. This is our first Audi. Should any of this play a role with their finance rate for me?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alatsacto
I was preapproved by my Credit Union for 2.79% for 60 months. Plus my wife and I individually have over 800 credit score rating, but they weren't even willing to move the small amount from their 2.9% for 60 months. They basically told me, if you can do better, then go with them, but you may find difficulties getting a bank to give you a loan for a car doing European Delivery. This is our first Audi. Should any of this play a role with their finance rate for me?

I am in the unique position where my credit score is over 83o. So I got a competative rate from Audi. My bank offered the competative rate.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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I am in the unique position where my credit score is over 83o. So I got a competative rate from Audi. My bank offered the competative rate.
Just curious, do you know what rate Audi Finance was offering you before you showed them your bank rate? What factors into this rate? Of course your credit score rating, but does location? Other outside factors affect this? From what my bank and Audi told me, my credit score provided me with the lowest rate possible.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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I had a rate of 1.8% prior and they did better.
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thanks for your review. Did you see the S-Line Package on the TDI in person? The Audi brochure says "Black Optic" and it seems that a full all-flat black grill would be a deviation from what they've done in the past. Hopefully at least the grill surround is gloss. Anyone have a good closeup picture?

Originally Posted by wrcardon
So I picked up my Monsoon grey 2014 SQ5 TFSI (Nappa black interior, 21" Wheels, Carbon Atlas, Nav, Audi Side assist, B&O) yesterday and have been out driving it and detailing it to get it up to snuff. So fun! I previously had a 2012 3.2 S-line in Daytona grey and black interior (Nav, S-line)

I went back and forth between the 2014 TDI with S-line plus package and the SQ5. I liked the TDI gas milage and the way the engine drove… unfortunately in the US it doesn't come with the S-line bumpers like the 3.0 TFSI does. So to get the bumper upgrade you need to get the S-line plus… which is fine… I just am not a fan of the black optics (titanium wheels, black grill, black roof rails, blacked out chrome around the windows). My biggest issues with the black optics is the black grill looks cheap. It's flat black plastic from of the 2.0T style grill. If they had made the grill all shiny black it would be so much better. I just looks like cheap black plastic. Plus, I am not a huge fan of the titanium wheels. On a grey car or a black car they just look like a brake dust covered normal wheel. Non-s-line was just not an option as I hate a grey headliner.

The SQ5 was awesome… the gas milage of course sucks. But the additional HP is amazing. For a difference of $3k after my ACNA 6% off, plus $1,000 off for audi loyalty it was not too hard a decision. Especially with 1.7% APR for 60 months. The interior of the SQ5 with the nappa leather is just so much nicer looking with the contrast stitch… the carbon atlas option is beautiful…

It drive great in S-mode! Super tight steering in Dynamic ADS! The sound is awesome! Vroom Vroom! In drive there is an odd lag to the accelerator. The brakes are strong but not as sensitive as the 2012. I guess I got used to the 2012 harsh breaking, so this is much gentler but has massive stopping power when you need it.

Vs the TDI… well the TDI felt a lot like my 3.2. It does not have the flat acceleration curve of the SQ5, but it is a sporty drive.

Pluses:
  • The engine is fast and responsive in S-mode. Great acceleration, wicked fun! Some odd delay in standard Drive mode when you hit the gas, but Sport mode is great.
  • The sound. I know it is from the soundakator (sp?) but it does sound cool as hell. Great start up sound and nice low rumble as it gets going.
  • Love the sports seats (SQ5 seats)! I am not tall (5'8") and I have short legs, but the normal Q5 seats were never comfortable. They always cut into my thighs, especially on long trips.. I can only imagine what it is like for a tall person (my girlfriend is 5'11" and she never complained). The seat extension on the sport seats allows you to customize the fit and it is a substantial improvement. In fact, it was one of the things I missed the most from my BMW 330ci was the leg extension on the sports seat. Also, they just look plain cooler with the side bolsters!
  • Nappa leather. Love it. As much as I understand the purpose of the Alcantara (sticky for sport driving), I never liked how it felt. My long sleeve shirts always caught and never felt comfortable. And let's be honest, the Nappa is amazingly nice -- comfortable and looks great with the silver contrast stitching. The door leather is really a nice upgrade from the traditional interior. The console leather is a bit of a plus/minus… the stitching is black, so honestly the normal console "hood" is plenty fine. Honestly nappa should be standard with Alacantara as an option.
  • B&O - it's not perfect but it is a big upgrade to the standard sound system which always sounded muddled to me. Wish the base was more robust, but for me at my age (37) it is plenty powerful. It sounds very clean with great clarity, just wish it had better eq control.
  • Rear seat head rests! I hated the my previous rear headrests. They were big and blocked the rear view. Plus, when you put the seats down (I surf and am pretty active) you had to make sure the rear seats were all the way back and the seats were forward. Now they are nice, tucked in and perfect!
  • ADS - makes the 2014s feel like the 2012 hydraulic steering when in Dynamic mode. A must if you like a sporty ride. I was so disappointed driving the non-S-line TDI -- it was sloppy. The engine was great, but the steering was ****.
  • Carbon atlas interior. Big fan. I had brushed aluminum previously and it scratched and dented. The first time my girlfriend got into the car she dented the aluminum on the center console with her purse… ugh.. Carbon atlas is super clean looking and compliments the interior.
  • 21" Wheels - look amazing and make it look like an SQ5. Surprisingly smooth ride compared to my previous 20". I live in southern california so no big need for all season tires. Yeah, I know tire options are going to be an issue.
  • Vs my 2012, like how they made the plastic around the MMI glossy


Minuses:
  • Color options. I can't believe you can't get it in Daytona Grey like the other S models without special ordering it at substantial additional cost. I went back and forth between phantom black and monsoon grey. Some times I wish I had the black as it just looks bad, but the monsoon is going to be less maintenance to keep it looking amazing.
  • Wish it was TDI instead - the MPG is terrible. Not sure why they didn't bring the euro version here.
  • Wish it had Air-leather on the steering wheel. It is just nicer and more comfortable.
  • Wish they had made the SQ5 a little more distinct than the rest of the Q5 line. They really should have put a different front bumper on there… more aggressive like the rest of the S models. Different side skirts as well.
  • Suspension -- it is the same ride height as my Q5. Audi of North America, shame on you.
  • Wish they made the diamond pattern leather seats and door inserts available as an option.
  • Not a huge fan of the silver side mirrors. They are basically a dull plastic silver color. I have seen other s models where they looks more like brushed aluminum which looks much nicer. They just look cheap on the SQ5.
  • Wish they did carpet on the lower door panels like the Porsche. The plastic lower door panels always show scuffs. This is the same across all the Q5s.


Unsure/to be determined:
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  • B]Audi side assist [/B]- never had it before. Seems nice, but the it's a small SUV so it's not hard to see. Probably great on a Q7 which is big and burly.
  • Google maps on the 3G MMI - neat but not necessary. The speed limit is shown which is helpful. But other than that the standard Nav is plenty good. Probably
won't continue the subscription when it comes due in 6 months.


Photos coming...

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