Air quality sensor retrofit possibility
#51
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Ordered the air distribution housing 3kg weight. Need to know what to drill if needed. Also will be used in the future for full 3 zone retrofit in order to get those errors eliminated. So I ordered all remaining parts. Here is my research.
Note these are for RHD Q5s prefacelift.
Ordered the following but not received yet.
8k2819151A front vent air ducting
8k2819152B front vent air ducting
3D0907543A x2 temp sensors
8k2820007E (housing flap box left) expensive
8k2820007G (housing flap box right) expensive
Received the following
8k2971566A 3 zone airbox harness (a small difference than my current harness).
8K0820356A Air distribution box (expensive)
8K0819422A cabin filter door
8R0857042B adaptor to rear console.
8k2819333D actuating lever left (27) cheap
8k0819333C actuating lever right (28) cheap
I have no other parts to order.
Nobody else in Australia or UK or Germany or Other parts of the world has done or is interested, or will perform this conversion upgrade?? No enthusiast retrofitter ???
Come on guys subscribe. I want your comments since I know only the theory.
I know Germans gurus dont think it is advisable to upgrade probably bcs of complexity and price. Already prooven that HVAC 3 zone works, AC and heat, with 1 zone lines whereas they said it would not.
I am just adding the rear line at the moment until I go full 3 zone retrofit but with stages and long time span. My wife wants to control the passenger side a/c. At the moment it is not possible. First priority rear passegers. (2 zone line to be added soon all parts in hand)
Note these are for RHD Q5s prefacelift.
Ordered the following but not received yet.
8k2819151A front vent air ducting
8k2819152B front vent air ducting
3D0907543A x2 temp sensors
8k2820007E (housing flap box left) expensive
8k2820007G (housing flap box right) expensive
Received the following
8k2971566A 3 zone airbox harness (a small difference than my current harness).
8K0820356A Air distribution box (expensive)
8K0819422A cabin filter door
8R0857042B adaptor to rear console.
8k2819333D actuating lever left (27) cheap
8k0819333C actuating lever right (28) cheap
I have no other parts to order.
Nobody else in Australia or UK or Germany or Other parts of the world has done or is interested, or will perform this conversion upgrade?? No enthusiast retrofitter ???
Come on guys subscribe. I want your comments since I know only the theory.
I know Germans gurus dont think it is advisable to upgrade probably bcs of complexity and price. Already prooven that HVAC 3 zone works, AC and heat, with 1 zone lines whereas they said it would not.
I am just adding the rear line at the moment until I go full 3 zone retrofit but with stages and long time span. My wife wants to control the passenger side a/c. At the moment it is not possible. First priority rear passegers. (2 zone line to be added soon all parts in hand)
Last edited by apoelistas; 06-28-2019 at 09:31 AM.
#52
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The answer is simple, to complicated, a lot of work and costly , so there are not many people who want to do it
#53
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1. HVAC 3 zone CU for appearance purposes (done)
2. HVAC Air Quality Sensor +1 above (done)
3. Rear vent console + vent lines retrofit including electrics and 12V socket (still waiting for 2 parts) This is under project initiation with no time limit (when I find time). This point is independent of 1 and 2 above.
4. Full HVAC 3 zone retrofit (very expensive). On hold
No 3 is an interesting part of this retrofit to transform 1 zone to 2 zone without additional hardware (not expensive). This will be part of my research before moving to full 3 zone.
Two parts I need cost €300 so on hold for full retrofit. (These will be the last expensive parts I will need well maybe some actuators may also need to be replaced). Most difficult will be implementation. Wish I had assistance.
Last edited by apoelistas; 06-25-2019 at 02:07 AM.
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#54
I don’t know how early Q5 came from factory in those markets you mentioned, but in South America they came very well equipped, even base models, most came with 3-zone A/C, no need to retrofit anything.
#55
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For the previous owner 3 zone HVAC was not important or he could not affort to add it. I purchased his Q5 in order to make my life difficult om
I understand that Audi technology is variable in different parts of the world but really nothing more than a marketing strategy.
E.g. all japanese car companies offer packages rather than individual options.
Dealership mentality, trying to steal more than having a package really or sell a Q5 without or minimal options.
Dealeship told me my Q5 is not Cypriot, they got confused with my options.
Last edited by apoelistas; 06-20-2019 at 02:47 AM.
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#56
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It all depends on the market, in the EU and most of the world, this is an additional option that costs around 500-700 EUR
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#58
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Here is the air distribution box. This will give some clicks from Europe and Australia .
I dont think it has any similarity with my existing one
Added the adaptor in order to show how it works
This box is supposed to be expensive. Cost me a lot to transport. (3kg) but this was leveraged from the good purchased price.
I dont think it has any similarity with my existing one
Added the adaptor in order to show how it works
This box is supposed to be expensive. Cost me a lot to transport. (3kg) but this was leveraged from the good purchased price.
Last edited by apoelistas; 06-20-2019 at 07:25 AM.
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#59
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"E.g. all japanese car companies offer packages rather than individual options."
When Japan started really hitting the US market, Detroit was typically offering some six pages (typed pages) of individual options for cars. But Detroit was based on massive inventory and assembly lines, versus Japan using just in time (JIT) inventory and literally, having independent home workers winging alternators and starters at night for delivery the next day, as and if needed.
Very different marketing approaches. Detroit aimed at "the customer is king" while Japan aimed at "How can we get these over there and still make money?" By having typically only two or three "packages" and sometimes only four options (manual/automatic transmission, which also forced power steering and brakes; air conditioning (which was often installed in the US at the port of entry); sunroof, not a whole lot more.
The Japanese approach made it easy to allocate cars while they were in transit at sea. The US approach sometimes lead to disasters, like when a strike at a red thread factory (literally) caused two or three month long delays on all cars ordered with a burgundy interior. Detroit? Choice of maybe four interior colors? While Japan offered "this is it".
Very different ways to take market share.
Changing AC zoning? I don't know, I suspect that's not the kind of mod that most "modders" are into these days. It doesn't change performance, handling, appearance...and the folks who need the extra zones for family kids and pets in the rear seat and cargo bay? Might have their hands full enough to just not want to invest that time retrospectively.
I was happier when a car had wing vents and floor vents, and I could pull a cable to get a cool breeze.(G)
When Japan started really hitting the US market, Detroit was typically offering some six pages (typed pages) of individual options for cars. But Detroit was based on massive inventory and assembly lines, versus Japan using just in time (JIT) inventory and literally, having independent home workers winging alternators and starters at night for delivery the next day, as and if needed.
Very different marketing approaches. Detroit aimed at "the customer is king" while Japan aimed at "How can we get these over there and still make money?" By having typically only two or three "packages" and sometimes only four options (manual/automatic transmission, which also forced power steering and brakes; air conditioning (which was often installed in the US at the port of entry); sunroof, not a whole lot more.
The Japanese approach made it easy to allocate cars while they were in transit at sea. The US approach sometimes lead to disasters, like when a strike at a red thread factory (literally) caused two or three month long delays on all cars ordered with a burgundy interior. Detroit? Choice of maybe four interior colors? While Japan offered "this is it".
Very different ways to take market share.
Changing AC zoning? I don't know, I suspect that's not the kind of mod that most "modders" are into these days. It doesn't change performance, handling, appearance...and the folks who need the extra zones for family kids and pets in the rear seat and cargo bay? Might have their hands full enough to just not want to invest that time retrospectively.
I was happier when a car had wing vents and floor vents, and I could pull a cable to get a cool breeze.(G)
#60
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When I sleep in the night I see full 3 zone HVAC system on my Q5. Really want it. I suppose South Americans made this European Option a prerequisite because they know this is important.
Being a RHD country believe we get the UK treatment, "1 Zone is enough mate, keep it simple, dont spend a fortune, or as most europeans say spend it with your family go holidays "
Nevertheless will give it a shot. I cannot stop now, being a hybrid 1/3 zone is not enough for a hot country or for my family needs (did not check before purchasing)
I suppose if one told me I can do it and help you out I would have done it already. This is important to me as it is for you guys just maybe upto 5 must have done this, if any in the whole world, as you said bcs families who dont have this tech dont have time, the budget, or dont know how to perform this upgrade (there are no specialists).
Germans offer no retrofit kit for this, I say they should. Well I will try not to break my HVAC system. That will be expensive.
Being a RHD country believe we get the UK treatment, "1 Zone is enough mate, keep it simple, dont spend a fortune, or as most europeans say spend it with your family go holidays "
Nevertheless will give it a shot. I cannot stop now, being a hybrid 1/3 zone is not enough for a hot country or for my family needs (did not check before purchasing)
I suppose if one told me I can do it and help you out I would have done it already. This is important to me as it is for you guys just maybe upto 5 must have done this, if any in the whole world, as you said bcs families who dont have this tech dont have time, the budget, or dont know how to perform this upgrade (there are no specialists).
Germans offer no retrofit kit for this, I say they should. Well I will try not to break my HVAC system. That will be expensive.
Last edited by apoelistas; 06-25-2019 at 02:10 AM.
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