European taillights
#81
Audiworld Junior Member
Hi My car is 2014 US version.
I just need the channel numbers for our taillights that will need to be changed on the vsds to EU version.
I found that some one decoded A6 taillights but the format of A4/6/7 tail lights are different than Q5 and Q3 cars. We do not have the inner and the outer lights as they do.
I just need the channel numbers for our taillights that will need to be changed on the vsds to EU version.
I found that some one decoded A6 taillights but the format of A4/6/7 tail lights are different than Q5 and Q3 cars. We do not have the inner and the outer lights as they do.
#82
Whoever I reached out on this matter either did not respond to me or did not provide any useful information.
My EuroSpec tails should be here soon and I will discover the coding with trial and error since I received no help from anyone.
I have a combination of codes from A4/6/7 and my plan is to compare them to Q5 to separate brake lights from turn signals. Once completed, I will post details here.
I am pretty disappointed with lack of help / response on this subject from those who have done this mod.
#83
Audiworld Junior Member
I just wanted to provide an update.
Whoever I reached out on this matter either did not respond to me or did not provide any useful information.
My EuroSpec tails should be here soon and I will discover the coding with trial and error since I received no help from anyone.
I have a combination of codes from A4/6/7 and my plan is to compare them to Q5 to separate brake lights from turn signals. Once completed, I will post details here.
I am pretty disappointed with lack of help / response on this subject from those who have done this mod.
Whoever I reached out on this matter either did not respond to me or did not provide any useful information.
My EuroSpec tails should be here soon and I will discover the coding with trial and error since I received no help from anyone.
I have a combination of codes from A4/6/7 and my plan is to compare them to Q5 to separate brake lights from turn signals. Once completed, I will post details here.
I am pretty disappointed with lack of help / response on this subject from those who have done this mod.
One more thing I would like to help you but I have 2011 and instal 2013 europe model so for me all works good but I'm also very interested to broke it down so if you can trow up the long coding how its looks like I would like to compare as you said with my but its not that easy to find it and make it right.
Last edited by vikislap; 05-01-2015 at 07:49 AM.
#84
AudiWorld Super User
"Previously the law provides only red"
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
Last edited by Redd; 05-03-2015 at 06:04 AM.
#85
AudiWorld Super User
That's impossible, physically two different models ( US ws RoW )
#86
Audiworld Junior Member
"Previously the law provides only red"
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
#87
"Previously the law provides only red"
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
Spijun-
My last car had AMBER turn signals. They've been common in the US and I can't see that the CFR would have banned them by mandating all red, and now gone back to them.
All of the LED manufacturers will tell you that if you use an LED behind a lens, the lens should be the same color in order to get maximum brightness from it. So, amber LEDs will almost certainly be behind an amber lens, while red ones will be behind a red lens. That will mean two different tail light assemblies, and I'd suspect only one of those, the US part, has the "DOT" approved stamp on it. If a car in the US does not have the DOT lettering on all the lamp assemblies, any cop who stops the car and sees that can write up one equipment violation per each incorrect lens. Yes, we have cops who know how to make money for their towns that way.
Just saying....they might not think twice about Audi tail lights, but this goes beyond just the cosmetics.
Prime quality LEDs are expensive. I can't think Audi would build both sets into every lamp assembly, that would be foolish of them. So, programming a change of color? Very unlikely.
HOWEVER, both sets look identical cosmetically. Once turned on, ROW light up amber on the turn signal. This was the case on my BMW as well.
I just checked the ROW spec tail lights that are now installed on our SQ and their regulatory logo is "CCC" and the set that the car originally came with is "DOT"
There is no such law in the US that indicates turn signals MUST be red (as I can give many examples of 2015 MY cars that come with Amber tun signals) BUT there is a law in ROW that turn signals must be amber.
If your lights look 100% OEM (which ROW spec lights do and are) there is no reason for a cop to pull you over. Now of course if you live somewhere cops have nothing better to do, they might pull you over to check the little DOT logo on your lights……however, I have never heard of a such case.
Bottom line, Amber turn signals are much safer as other drivers can see if you are turning or braking.
But here in America we are still trying to figure out things like adaptive brake lights, Rear fogs light (my fav topic) & etc where the rest of the world figured them out many years ago.
Once again, you are correct sir.
I have the EU lights installed now and hope to get them coded correctly in couple of weeks (Someone is borrowing my RossTech cable). I really don't think it is too complicated.
I will keep you posted.
Last edited by TTG; 05-03-2015 at 10:09 PM.
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