2018 Q5 - heated seats not that heated?
12-18-2017, 06:40 AM
#21
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^ VOX, thanks. Based on the feedback here from you and others I completely agree.
12-18-2017, 10:02 AM
#22
I agree -- my Q5 Prestige seats aren't nearly as warm as my 2006 TDI Jetta -- I even feel the heated stearing wheel is warmer than the front seats! Perhaps it's the warm pkg with the sport seats in front that compromises heating function.
This weekend, because of a vehicle full with passengers, my GF sat in the back seat on a cold evening. She was very impressed with the rear heated seats. On the other hand, if you're tall, the standard seats have inadequate thigh support, so I specifically sought out the sport seats for the thigh extension. However, I haven't yet needed the heated seats much, so maybe the issue is that the sports seats don't extend heating elements to the thigh extension and thus have a smaller heating surface. But my limited impression is that they're not very warm, not simply heating well within in a smaller area.
Dave
This weekend, because of a vehicle full with passengers, my GF sat in the back seat on a cold evening. She was very impressed with the rear heated seats. On the other hand, if you're tall, the standard seats have inadequate thigh support, so I specifically sought out the sport seats for the thigh extension. However, I haven't yet needed the heated seats much, so maybe the issue is that the sports seats don't extend heating elements to the thigh extension and thus have a smaller heating surface. But my limited impression is that they're not very warm, not simply heating well within in a smaller area.
Dave
Last edited by d-klumpp; 12-18-2017 at 10:39 AM.
12-18-2017, 01:04 PM
#23
^ Wishbone, thoughtful warning, thanks. However the available seat heater micro adjustment within control module (09) Central Electrics (in Adaptation) doesn't actually alter the amount of current going to the seat heaters in a given stage [1,2 and 3] - it only alters the set temperature at which the seat heaters regulate to in a particular heat stage. I've determined in the Ross-Tech 2017 Audi Q7 4M forum that the regulating temperature for the heated seats can be changed by a maximum of plus or minus 5 deg. C. in each heat stage. Today I changed (increased) my seat heater settings by +3 deg. C. for all 3 heat stages. I'll report back here in a few days as to what effect this change has made.
Note: The stored factory setting for the seat heater micro adjustment is 0 (deg. C.).
/R
Note: The stored factory setting for the seat heater micro adjustment is 0 (deg. C.).
/R
12-20-2017, 05:37 AM
#24
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^ umdstu, wishbone and all - After a few days now of having the Adaptation seat heater micro adjustment set to +3 deg. C. I've experienced quite a noticeable difference [but not a huge difference] in the amount of heat in the driver's seat in heat stage 3. My wife advised that the front passenger seat is now more than adequate with the seat heater set to heat stage 3.
To further my experimentation I've decided to go back into (09) Central Electrics and increase the micro adjustment setting to +5 deg. C. (the maximum setting). I would like to see the driver's seat get a little warmer in heat stage 3.
FYI - as an aside... for all those here who have the same ventilated sport seats... there is also an available micro adjustment setting in (09) Central Electrics>>Adaptation to increase the ventilated seat cooling fan speed (for each of the 3 stages) by up to 10%.
/Richard
To further my experimentation I've decided to go back into (09) Central Electrics and increase the micro adjustment setting to +5 deg. C. (the maximum setting). I would like to see the driver's seat get a little warmer in heat stage 3.
FYI - as an aside... for all those here who have the same ventilated sport seats... there is also an available micro adjustment setting in (09) Central Electrics>>Adaptation to increase the ventilated seat cooling fan speed (for each of the 3 stages) by up to 10%.
/Richard
Last edited by rbreeze; 12-20-2017 at 01:05 PM.
12-20-2017, 08:03 PM
#25
^ umdstu, wishbone and all - After a few days now of having the Adaptation seat heater micro adjustment set to +3 deg. C. I've experienced quite a noticeable difference [but not a huge difference] in the amount of heat in the driver's seat in heat stage 3. My wife advised that the front passenger seat is now more than adequate with the seat heater set to heat stage 3.
To further my experimentation I've decided to go back into (09) Central Electrics and increase the micro adjustment setting to +5 deg. C. (the maximum setting). I would like to see the driver's seat get a little warmer in heat stage 3.
FYI - as an aside... for all those here who have the same ventilated sport seats... there is also an available micro adjustment setting in (09) Central Electrics>>Adaptation to increase the ventilated seat cooling fan speed (for each of the 3 stages) by up to 10%.
/Richard
To further my experimentation I've decided to go back into (09) Central Electrics and increase the micro adjustment setting to +5 deg. C. (the maximum setting). I would like to see the driver's seat get a little warmer in heat stage 3.
FYI - as an aside... for all those here who have the same ventilated sport seats... there is also an available micro adjustment setting in (09) Central Electrics>>Adaptation to increase the ventilated seat cooling fan speed (for each of the 3 stages) by up to 10%.
/Richard
12-21-2017, 04:04 AM
#27
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/R
Last edited by rbreeze; 12-21-2017 at 09:54 AM.
12-21-2017, 04:19 AM
#28
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My feeling is... avoid going to the dealer as much as you can!.. as it's very often a big waste of time for issues such as this.
12-21-2017, 06:28 AM
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^ Ha-ha! The "lucky one" will have to first convince the dealer that an issue actually exists! After a few "checks" for heated seat operation and any faults logged, the dealer will likely come back and say that this is how the heated seats are designed to operate on 2018 Q5s equipped with ventilated sport seats.
My feeling is... avoid going to the dealer as much as you can!.. as it's very often a big waste of time for issues such as this.
My feeling is... avoid going to the dealer as much as you can!.. as it's very often a big waste of time for issues such as this.
12-21-2017, 11:45 AM
#30
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After further testing and further drive/seat time, I've settled on my final settings for the heated seats in my '18 Q5 equipped with ventilated sport seats.
My final settings [re: 'Seat heater, micro adjust.' in control module (09) Central Electrics] are as follows:
Stage 1: +5 °C
Stage 2: +5 °C
Stage 3: +4 °C
So NOW, with these settings changes in place... after about 10 minutes of having the driver's seat set to heat Stage 3 - I need to turn it down to Stage 2 because it gets a little too warm. In a few days or weeks I may lower the Stage 3 setting from +4 °C to +3 °C, so that I can just leave the seat set to heat Stage 3 all the time (during winter) without it becoming uncomfortable. Stage 2 heat is quite good now at the setting of +5 °C (after coming out of heat Stage 3), but after sitting for a while at the Stage 2 level I start thinking it could be just a little warmer.
The great thing of course is that these settings changes can be carried out anytime in just a few seconds using the OBDeleven.
My final settings [re: 'Seat heater, micro adjust.' in control module (09) Central Electrics] are as follows:
Stage 1: +5 °C
Stage 2: +5 °C
Stage 3: +4 °C
So NOW, with these settings changes in place... after about 10 minutes of having the driver's seat set to heat Stage 3 - I need to turn it down to Stage 2 because it gets a little too warm. In a few days or weeks I may lower the Stage 3 setting from +4 °C to +3 °C, so that I can just leave the seat set to heat Stage 3 all the time (during winter) without it becoming uncomfortable. Stage 2 heat is quite good now at the setting of +5 °C (after coming out of heat Stage 3), but after sitting for a while at the Stage 2 level I start thinking it could be just a little warmer.
The great thing of course is that these settings changes can be carried out anytime in just a few seconds using the OBDeleven.
Last edited by rbreeze; 12-22-2017 at 06:27 AM.