rainmaker03

funny, I downloaded the zip myself and it's corrupted for me too. I put the jpg here on mediafire.

http://www.mediafire.com/?dthhdxwnmww

JadeVetti

Anyone?

Or if anyone knows where I can find it online, I'd appreciate it.

rainmaker03

The zip was corrupted for me, when I redownloaded it too. Upload must have messed it up.

I put the jpg here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dthhdxwnmww

rainmaker03

The zip was corrupted for me, when I redownloaded it too. Upload must have messed it up.

I put the jpg here:

www.mediafire.com/?dthhdxwnmww

RSP

A copy of the 2011 Q7 3.0 TFSI Order Guide has been provided by another forum member and I have attached the 2011 Q7 3.0 TDI Order Guide for comparison purposes. The 3.0 TFSI guide previously provided is dated May 14, 2010 and the 3.0 TDI guide dated April 16, 2010 so there may be a more current 2011 TDI guide available.

One of the anomalies I noticed between the two has to do with the 20" tires that come with the S line and or Prestige package options. For the 2011 TFSI model the S Line (exterior) and Prestige, as well as the 333 HP engine are packaged together and it comes with 20" S line wheels w/275/45 all-season tires. The 2011 TDI S Line package option does not include upgraded wheels at all, that would come with ordering the Prestige Package that comes with 20" bi-color five double-spoke wheels w/275/45 all-season tires. These same wheels can be ordered as a stand alone option on a Premium Plus package. I wonder how many other little nuances there are between the two Q7 model lines in 2011?

On another related issue with the 2011 models, especially for those that have already ordered their vehicles for domestic dealer delivery, does anyone know if Audi of America is going to extend their current Audi Loyalty Incentive (currently $2,000 for the purchase of a 2010 Audi Q7) to their MY 2011 vehicles? When the Loyalty program was at a similar point in 2009 they extended it to the MY 2010 vehicles when they started being ordered and
received.

RSP

anahuac

When you say "better gas mileage" you are forgetting that there is an adblue(urea) treatment that must be included in the TDI fuel calculation. I know many are going to jump and remind me about how the audicare package takes care of the ADBLUE requirement. What happens after the audicare package expires? As of today...Your TDI will not recognize that you have filled and topped off your adblue reservoir. You may add a few drops, when running low, that will get you to the dealer. Maybe most are not capable of working on their own Audi's but I think that many, if not all, can add the adblue NO PROPLEM. I heard that the adblue system can damaged if someone was to add water and thats why the dealer is the only one that can reset the adblue function. Funny thing is that they allow you to pour a half gallon of adblue. I personally wrote to Audi about the Adblue treatment and how customer unfriendly it was. Never heard from them. I wrote to Motorweek and asked if they could talk about the adblue the next time they were to show off the TDI.

anahuac

By the way, I will be waiting for the newly designed Q7 TDI in 2011 and I will be purchasing one for mechanical reasons not for gas mileage reasons. The 3.0(petrol) should be an interesting one. Oh yeah, test drove a 2009 Q7 3.6 and jumped on the freeway..was traveling 65 when I decided to punch it. Bad news, the 3.6 actually slowed down and sounded like it had reached its peak power. No wonder Q7 fans want a 4.2.

Owner of
1979 300sd Turbo Diesel Benz 179,000 miles
1970 280 SEL Benz 54,000 miles
2002 Silverado 125,000 miles-Original Owner
1991 Civic 406,489 miles-Original Owner

Railflyer

Adblue adds less than a penny to each mile driven. Something like 3/10ths of one cent actually. So adblue expense is a red herring.

anahuac

The adblue tank holds 10 gallons and is serviced every 10,000 miles. Each bottle is one half gallon which costs 15.00 dollars. Thats 30.00 dollars for 1 gallon then multiplied by 10 gallons equals 300 dollars to fill up the adblue tank. Lets take the 300 dollars and multiply that by 5 which is the audi care number of services the audi care package covers. So 300 dollars times 5 equals 1,500 dollars. Now 1,500.00 would be the cost to service the adblue tank yourself if you did not purchase Audi care for 740.00. So 1,500.00 minus 740.00 would be a savings of 760.00 dollars. 300.00 dollars would be the out of pocket cost to fill the adblue tank if not purchasing the audi care. Now let me play with the numbers. Thats 10,000 miles divided by 10 gallons which then equals to 1000 miles per adblue gallon. Each adblue gallon is 30 dollars. so it would cost me 30 dollars per 1000 miles. Now lets really pay attention here and lets throw the 600 hundred miles to empty the diesel q7 tank. I gallon of diesel is 3.05. Lets say the q7 tdi averages 25mpg so I drive 1000 miles. Lets divide 1000 miles by 25. That equals 40...so 40 gallons is what I will use to reach 1000 miles. Each gallon is 3.05. Now lets multiply 3.05 times 40 gallons. That will equal to 122 dollars to drive 1000 miles. Plus now we can add the 30 dollars for 1 gallon of adblue which will last approximately 1000 miles..So I will add 122.00 plus 30.00 which equals to 152.00 dollars to run 1000 miles on a Q7 TDI. Lets continue,,,we will now take the new amount to run 1000 miles which is 152.00 dollars and we will take that same number and divide that by the number of gallons it takes to drive 1000 miles and that grand new total is 3.80...That means that now, with the adblue in the picture, I will be paying 3.80 a gallon, assuming the 25 average mpg,. Wow....3.80 a gallon vs current diesel price 3.05....thats .75 cents more....and thats more than the gas Q7.....People are not doing the math. Now if we were to get the price of adblue to come down and the audi dealer to let us add and reset it ourselves then maybe all diesel lovers would stop blogging and posting bad things about adblue. My understanding is that adblue can be purchased cheaper at other locations and I also know that truck stops sell same solution, under a different name, for a lot cheaper, way cheaper...

Railflyer

Yes adblue can be had for around $3.50 a gallon through companies such as http://www.dieselexhaustfluid.com/

The more you buy the cheaper it gets. VW even sells it cheaper. One thing in all your cost comparisons you forget is Audi specs premium gas for all its FSI engines. Where I live in Texas Premium gas is more than diesel by 3 -5 cents a gallon. Diesel running around $2.79 a gallon last I checked.

Also I believe the Adblue reset can be done with a VAGCOM, which I have.
Your $3.80 per gallon is way, way over inflated. If you buy adblue in the 1/2 gallon container at Audi you get raped, buy it in the 2.5 gallon jug at VW and pay around $13.00.

On long trips that I have taken in excess of 500 miles at a time I get 27- 29 MPG hand calculated. My cost is way less per mile than any gas Q7 could touch for me.

Also I dont remember the tank being 10 gallons. It is around 6. This link here shows Audi USA saying 23 liters.
http://microsites.audiusa.com/ngw/10...Chart_2010.pdf