Transmission/supercharger clutch noise
#31
@AudiVic -- how loud was your "hooting" noise? Is the noise completely gone now? Mine is a soft "knocking" sound. It's driving me crazy too, because it's always there .. you almost expect it whenever you slow down or accelerate... And yes if I'd known it, I'd not buy it. This may not bother some people, but I am very sensitive to repetitive clicking / knocking.
Starting last week, another kind of clicking noises started. This one is behind driver's seat during low speed stop-and-go, slowing-down or accelerating ... argh...
I am seriously thinking about switching a vehicle.
Starting last week, another kind of clicking noises started. This one is behind driver's seat during low speed stop-and-go, slowing-down or accelerating ... argh...
I am seriously thinking about switching a vehicle.
#32
AudiWorld Member
@AudiVic:
Thanks for clarifying. I don't think it's the same issue as what I have. I will talk to Audi USA about this when I get a chance. The dealer that I have been going to is just not giving me any solution - frustrating.
Thanks for clarifying. I don't think it's the same issue as what I have. I will talk to Audi USA about this when I get a chance. The dealer that I have been going to is just not giving me any solution - frustrating.
#33
Yep, nothing more frustrating in life than a dealer telling you it's normal and you that it is not. For me it implies that they assume I know nothing about cars and I'll believe whatever they tell me. FWIW, Audi did tell me to try another dealer and I told them that was unacceptable. I requested to meet with an Audi representative which Audi says they don't have any. Audi did say they would contact the dealer and help me resolve my issue which they did. Anyways, best of luck!
#34
AudiWorld Senior Member
This doesn't sound like the same noise as when it shifts gears under heavier throttle...I'm assuming that's just the waste gate's "whoosh"...if it is indeed the w/g then why so noisy? Our supercharged XKR's w/g doesn't make any discernable noise.
Last edited by RJC 1; 01-11-2017 at 02:10 PM.
#35
AudiWorld Member
I had a supercharged E55 and MB had the same issue with a chirp on clutch engagement. Some people got the clutch replaced but the noise would eventually return. The (temporary) fix was to take a feeler gage and put a little graphite between the clutch faces. The fix would last a couple of thousand miles. I think MB eventually redesigned the clutch to solve this problem.
#36
AudiWorld Senior Member
I had a supercharged E55 and MB had the same issue with a chirp on clutch engagement. Some people got the clutch replaced but the noise would eventually return. The (temporary) fix was to take a feeler gage and put a little graphite between the clutch faces. The fix would last a couple of thousand miles. I think MB eventually redesigned the clutch to solve this problem.
Had an 06 E55 in 2006...what a monster. What is the noise with every shift under moderate+ acceleration? It is not a chirp but more of a woosh sound? Thought it was the wastegate?
#37
AudiWorld Member
That sounds like a wastegate. The E55 chirped every time you got on the throttle. Surprised Audi has this issue in 2017.
#38
Peace :-). It's John by the way. I'm sorry, didn't mean to offend. I've no connection to Audi. Just been blessed (cursed) with being mechanical for 60 years. To clarify, what I was trying to say is that it has to be difficult to create a device (clutch) to engage a supercharger drive and bring that supercharger to operating rpm ( 10000 rpm or so) instantly when the engine is at its operating speed and to do so silently. Whether it has become more noticeable and objectionable due to wear or possibly as a result of cold temperatures, I have no idea. I did say it might be normal for these vehicles but I didn't say it was acceptable. Bears watching for sure and doccumenting it with your dealer now is certainly advisable in case it fails after warranty. As to " Do I have a 2017 Q7 that I paid $70k for?" No I don't but we do have a TDI MK1 Q7 in the midst of the diesel scandal that has lost much of its resale value as a result. I feel your pain. Good luck finding a solution. Might be as simple as Audi recalibrating the clutch engagement. Might require redesigning the clutch. Again, I have no idea :-)
I got the same runaround with AUDI corporate. they said it was the supercharger clutch and it was normal. They said that the manager would gladly have me come in and have me listen to other A6's. What's funny is when I initially brought it in the service manager went for a ride and confirmed that he heard the "hoot". He said it wasn't right but thought it was a vacuum. He said to wait it out for my 15,000 mile check up because to really determine the issue they would need to "dig in". Bottom line, he didn't know what it was. My interpretation was that it was NOT normal if the service manager couldn't put his finger on it.
I smell a rat so I'm looking forward to following this thread.
#39
AudiWorld Senior Member
The new Q7 has its share of issues, and I guess shame on those of us affected that bought a first year production vehicle. We are first time Audi buyers (not leased) and I will reserve judgment on ever buying another Audi until after I see how they handle the issues affecting me.
Last edited by RJC 1; 01-12-2017 at 09:15 PM.
#40
AudiWorld Member
I have another appointment to ride with the dealer technician. I have 2 kinds of sounds going on now (I copied, pasted and edited the texts below from my email to Audi Loyalty Advocate):
First one: It is a soft knocking sound when slowing down / stopping or going / accelerating... The sound is in the front of vehicle, almost in front of the glove compartment - could be from the engine compartment. It's very consistent and you can hear it knocking in those conditions. It's the worse during stop and go traffic, or traffic lights / stop signs. I had Audi technician ride with me a month ago. He told me it's the supercharger clutch engaging and disengaging. He said it has something to do with the efficiency. He said it's normal, and there's nothing he can do about that. It's bothering me and making me dislike the Q7.
Second one: About a couple weeks ago, another mysterious noise started. This one is inconsistent and I can't find its "trigger" yet. I've been trying to monitor and watch for when it's clicking, but I haven't been able to tell the exact time or condition which trigger it. Most times I hear it when stopping / going, sometimes turning ... It's a clicking / ticking sound almost like some electronic relay switching on and off. This one comes from behind the driver's seat - either from the seat itself, or the seat belt, or the door behind the driver's seat.
First one: It is a soft knocking sound when slowing down / stopping or going / accelerating... The sound is in the front of vehicle, almost in front of the glove compartment - could be from the engine compartment. It's very consistent and you can hear it knocking in those conditions. It's the worse during stop and go traffic, or traffic lights / stop signs. I had Audi technician ride with me a month ago. He told me it's the supercharger clutch engaging and disengaging. He said it has something to do with the efficiency. He said it's normal, and there's nothing he can do about that. It's bothering me and making me dislike the Q7.
Second one: About a couple weeks ago, another mysterious noise started. This one is inconsistent and I can't find its "trigger" yet. I've been trying to monitor and watch for when it's clicking, but I haven't been able to tell the exact time or condition which trigger it. Most times I hear it when stopping / going, sometimes turning ... It's a clicking / ticking sound almost like some electronic relay switching on and off. This one comes from behind the driver's seat - either from the seat itself, or the seat belt, or the door behind the driver's seat.