Nasty body roll
10-15-2003, 08:26 AM
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Nasty body roll
Link is to a pic of me at the Tire Rack ACNA autox from this past weekend. The car allegedly has H&R springs and Koni shocks, PO mods. What's the easiest or best way to get rid of the nasty roll? I did coilovers to my 90, and that really helped that car. I guess I'm probably looking at coilovers and larger sway bars?
What setups are others out there running to get less roll?
Thanks!
Nathan Engelbert
83 UrQ 900453<ul><li><a href="http://home.comcast.net/~autox2/HTML2/xc_0104.htm">http://home.comcast.net/~autox2/HTML2/xc_0104.htm</a</li></ul>
What setups are others out there running to get less roll?
Thanks!
Nathan Engelbert
83 UrQ 900453<ul><li><a href="http://home.comcast.net/~autox2/HTML2/xc_0104.htm">http://home.comcast.net/~autox2/HTML2/xc_0104.htm</a</li></ul>
10-15-2003, 09:08 AM
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Same issue here.
I had H&R springs and Boge TurboGas shocks from the PO. I tested the front springs and they came out to 195-205 lb/in, way too soft IHO.
What I'm doing is 2Bennett coilovers with 325 lb/in springs in front and 375 in back. I have a set of custom valved Bilstien shocks to match. I'll report back from the track after the November event.
Rich<ul><li><a href="http://www.pdxsports.com/photos/showphoto.asp?folder=200309Audi&photo=20030912 _9936.jpg">http://www.pdxsports.com/photos/showphoto.asp?folder=200309Audi&photo=20030912 _9936.jpg</a</li></ul>
What I'm doing is 2Bennett coilovers with 325 lb/in springs in front and 375 in back. I have a set of custom valved Bilstien shocks to match. I'll report back from the track after the November event.
Rich<ul><li><a href="http://www.pdxsports.com/photos/showphoto.asp?folder=200309Audi&photo=20030912 _9936.jpg">http://www.pdxsports.com/photos/showphoto.asp?folder=200309Audi&photo=20030912 _9936.jpg</a</li></ul>
10-15-2003, 12:41 PM
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ha! thats not roll... this is body roll:
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/25765/leanmuch.jpg">
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/25765/tilt.jpg">
thats my baby autoxing her heart out. i have a few pics of the rear wheels way up off the ground too but theyre not scanned. stock suspension. no good at all
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/25765/tilt.jpg">
thats my baby autoxing her heart out. i have a few pics of the rear wheels way up off the ground too but theyre not scanned. stock suspension. no good at all
10-15-2003, 05:40 PM
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Stumbling sorted?
Nathan,
Did you get the stumbling problem you had fixed? If so, what did it end up being.
I fnally passed E-check today. The cold start valve was hard-wired to come on with the ignition and was causing the car to run very rich.
Rob
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Did you get the stumbling problem you had fixed? If so, what did it end up being.
I fnally passed E-check today. The cold start valve was hard-wired to come on with the ignition and was causing the car to run very rich.
Rob
Dayton
10-16-2003, 07:41 AM
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ponderings on Body Roll
I sometimes wonder if the quest to flatten audis and stiffen the supension is the right course of action.
On n a perfectly falt surface it is. BUT...... in Canada we don't have smooth roads, ( oru pavement is rough and wavey frost heaved cracked and sometiems even potholed, we sometimes drive on gravel and often in snow.
It has been my experience an overly stiff suspension is a handycap in slippery conditions.
I even know a rally team that removed their front sway bar! The car sure rolled but on back roads it was the right solution for them.
I guess it comes down to where you think you will do the moste spirited driving and how much.
On n a perfectly falt surface it is. BUT...... in Canada we don't have smooth roads, ( oru pavement is rough and wavey frost heaved cracked and sometiems even potholed, we sometimes drive on gravel and often in snow.
It has been my experience an overly stiff suspension is a handycap in slippery conditions.
I even know a rally team that removed their front sway bar! The car sure rolled but on back roads it was the right solution for them.
I guess it comes down to where you think you will do the moste spirited driving and how much.
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10-20-2003, 05:29 PM
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Re: Nasty body roll
Hi Nathan,
I have had reasonable luck running 2Bennett coilovers with koni sport shocks. I also have the blau rear sway bar, but the item i think made a big difference was changing all of the a-arm bushings to solid delrin (also blau).
At the time the ur-q was a daily driver so i used 350 lbs/in front and 325 rear. It was decent for lapping days and reasonably comfortable on the street. Now that this is my track car, I somewhat regret going with such conservative rates. If I had to do it all over again I would go for 500 lbs springs all around.
The pic in my sig shows how flat the car corners.. that is a 90 degree right hand turn, entry speed is 100 km/hr and exit speed is 120 km/h.
I have had reasonable luck running 2Bennett coilovers with koni sport shocks. I also have the blau rear sway bar, but the item i think made a big difference was changing all of the a-arm bushings to solid delrin (also blau).
At the time the ur-q was a daily driver so i used 350 lbs/in front and 325 rear. It was decent for lapping days and reasonably comfortable on the street. Now that this is my track car, I somewhat regret going with such conservative rates. If I had to do it all over again I would go for 500 lbs springs all around.
The pic in my sig shows how flat the car corners.. that is a 90 degree right hand turn, entry speed is 100 km/hr and exit speed is 120 km/h.
10-21-2003, 01:16 PM
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This was my case
<center><img src="http://www.quattro.ca/0001.jpg"></center><p>With Eibachs and Boge ProGas.
Moved to Camaro 34mm sway bars front and back to solve that problem for good!!
Moved to Camaro 34mm sway bars front and back to solve that problem for good!!