NHman

The B8 platform was first available in 2009. Assuming a 6-year life cycle the new platform would be available in 2015. I would think the S platform would be released 1 year later (as 2016). The refresh is just going through now. I wouldn't expect Audi to make the investment for 1-year.

drrick89

Good point! I'm going to bring that up with him when I see him next.

av_audi

I see 740is being offered at essentially the same price once you include the initial fees. But I see an offer for the A6 3.0T P+, which I think costs about the same as his S4, also coming out to about $800/mo once you include the initial expenses. I guess the moral of the story is that Audis are much more expensive to lease than BMWs. I Anytime you are paying te full price of the car in less than 6 six years, I feel like you are getting ripped off.

Note that this lease if for 42 mos, not 36. Maybe the dealer is counting on the OP expecting the same treatment to really squeeze him dry on this car.

NHman

In general, BMW has better lease plans vs. Audi. With Looking at the two core variables to a lease, money factor (i.e. interest) and residual value, BMW tends to be in the upper 50's to lower 60's for residual. This is based on a 3-year lease at 12k. Adjust 1-2% up or down for mileage.

The last Audi I owned, well rented, was a MY08 Q7 4.2. The lease was very attractive due to a very low money factor. At the time it was 0.9%. Coupled with a respectable residue value provided a monthly payment of $750. This was very good for zero down and an MSRP of $64k. Fast-forward to last year when it came time to replace it a similar equipped Q7 was $1075.

If you are planning on keeping the vehicle beyond the lease period a lower residual can help on the back-end. However the money factor is the key. Also knowing if Finance Mgr is marking up the rate (which is very common).

GiantEli

I just got the same offer.

Existing: 2010 P+, Nav (w parking sensors), SD, B&O, 19", Carbon Fiber, S-Tronic
MSRP 53900, $739/mo 10k/36, $0 down, 14 payments left
Car=pristine, 14k miles on it
Residual=$29500

Offer: 2010 P+, Nav, SD, B&O, 19", Carbon Fiber, S-Tronic, Advanced Key, Parking Sensors (basically a 2010 Prestige)
MSRP $56,400, $639/mo 10k/36 $0 down


Given that I was planning on buying the existing car and keeping it for a couple of years, my math tells me it's a wash, which means for the same net dollars (and lower outlay and no risk), I'd be driving a slightly newer and better equipped car.

Anyone else get this?

bimmers2

Yes. But I traded it in at half way (17 payments left) of 36 months lease with 8k excessive mileage and windshield and paint damages on it. BMW won't do that w/o significant cost. Besides, BMW does have better lease plan in terms of actual payments - this can be seen comparing X5 to S4, which is way "too expensive" if leased. In my case, the dealer actually eats up (pays) $3255 cost to end my 2010 S4 lease.

bimmers2

My dealer told me about it (MY2013, not 2014). But if I hold the 2010 for 6 more months, I'll need to replace my brake pads ($616+Tax) and have (estimated) 20K excessive mileage ($5000 cost) plus premium added onto selling price of 2013 models. So, not good for me.