EF99

Hi All,
I'm looking at used 2009, 2010 S4's, most likely from a dealer.

I'm reaching the conclusion that there are so few used S4's available (in local US markets anyway), the fairly high depreciation of Audi's means nothing and the prices are very nearly what a new 2011 can be purchased for.

Does that sound about right?

But it begs the question, why does the depreciation remain so drastic (using lease residuals as a proxy) if the market price for 1-2 year old S4's is only a few percent below new ones? In other words, instead of a 55% residual on a 24 month lease, why isn't it more like 85% or more, since that seems to be the going rate in the market?

nal13

You are correct. The demand is very high on these cars and even the used 2010 models are commanding a premium. You may be able to get a used premium plus in the mid 40's but you can get a new one for probably only 4-5K more.

Many people on this forum, including myself, ordered our cars and waited approximately 3 months for delivery due to most dealers having few if any on the lot.

Also there are no 2009 B8S4. It was introduced in the end of 2009 as a 2010 model.

GR8-LIFE

well, with the S4's only going on its 2cnd year, it doesnt surprise me but its tough to tell wheer pre-owns will be in a few months. Also remember that a number is just a number. Nearly every case I have bought a pre-owned car, it was for thousands less than the advertised price. So the moment you find such a car, then the chart numbesr become skewed again.

Just curious, have you contactd any U.S. dealer who is willing to sell you at (or very close to) invoice? If not, it never hurts to keep asking

skiracerblah

I know Costco Member pricing is +$1000 over invoice...

ItsDubC

In addition, I don't think the B8 S4 was available in the US for '09. '10 was the US introduction year IIRC.

nhs4

+1, there are some good programs that take some of the pain out of negotiating. Don't get irrational over a couple hundred bucks on a $50k car. I looked at used and even a couple demos- couldn't find what I wanted and didn't want to settle.

carguyrob

Often times, an Audi dealer will overprice a used S4 so they can keep it on their lot for potential new car buyers to test drive. If it weren't for a used 2010 on my Audi dealer's lot, I probably wouldn't have ordered one that day. If a buyer comes along that is willing to pay top dollar for a used car, they will sell it.

EF99

Thanks for clarifying about the '09 not having the sV6 3 liter. Could very well be the videos and reviews I saw were not US cars.

I haven't necessarily ruled out the 4.2l V8 (which, prior to now, I thought only went thru 2008) but I see that is a differnt forum.

Is the claim in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EeBGHrLtbw
about the 2010 S4 drinking oil (they say they need to add oil about every 1500 miles) accurate?

clochner

Yep. The US 2009 S4 was only available in the cabriolet, and it used the 4.2L V8. So if you're looking specifically for B8 models, you're pretty much only going to find used 2010s, as the 2011s started to be delivered to the States last summer.

vwong

I have a little over 15k miles in my S4, and have never had to add oil.