302 lb. ft of Torque in the new S4????..........
09-23-2002, 07:04 AM
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It has lower wt/torque ratio than the E46 & peaks 1400rpms lower so looks good to me.
B6 (8E) S4
302 ft-lbs
344 hp
3652 lbs
E46 M3
262 ft-lbs
333 hp
3415 lbs
Weight/HP
S4 10.62
E46 10.26 E46 "wins"
Weight/Torque
S4 12.09
E46 13.03 S4 "wins"
(Lower numbers are better)
Folks crack me up. The S4 is a 4 door and has quattro and they expect it to weigh only as much as the E46 M3 coupe. Yes, that's possible with more aluminum, and the price would also go up as well as collision repair costs. Of course Audi could cut another 50 lbs by removing the spare like BMW does.
302 ft-lbs
344 hp
3652 lbs
E46 M3
262 ft-lbs
333 hp
3415 lbs
Weight/HP
S4 10.62
E46 10.26 E46 "wins"
Weight/Torque
S4 12.09
E46 13.03 S4 "wins"
(Lower numbers are better)
Folks crack me up. The S4 is a 4 door and has quattro and they expect it to weigh only as much as the E46 M3 coupe. Yes, that's possible with more aluminum, and the price would also go up as well as collision repair costs. Of course Audi could cut another 50 lbs by removing the spare like BMW does.
09-23-2002, 07:27 AM
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A true statement.
Would we be willing to put up with the body repair nightmares that would go along with them using an Audi Space Frame for the B-class cars, however?
That's the only immediate, viable way I see them reducing weight.
That's the only immediate, viable way I see them reducing weight.
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09-23-2002, 08:00 AM
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Audi can come out with S4R. R=Racing version which is lighter...
1) Go with manual, lighter race seats: save 35 lbs. each front, save 30 lbs. rear, total: 100 lbs.
2) Lighter, more aggressive (louder) exhaust, save 20 lbs.
3) Lighter forged wheels: save 40 lbs.
4) Lighter upgrade brakes/rotors: save 30 lbs.
5) Miscellanous other reduction: save 40 lbs.
6) No spare: save 50 lbs.
Total saved: 280 lbs.
So, 3,660 - 280 = 3,380lbs. Much better. :-)
Now we can run with the M3. :-)
2) Lighter, more aggressive (louder) exhaust, save 20 lbs.
3) Lighter forged wheels: save 40 lbs.
4) Lighter upgrade brakes/rotors: save 30 lbs.
5) Miscellanous other reduction: save 40 lbs.
6) No spare: save 50 lbs.
Total saved: 280 lbs.
So, 3,660 - 280 = 3,380lbs. Much better. :-)
Now we can run with the M3. :-)
09-23-2002, 08:22 AM
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My S8 motor is close to that. It delivers 90% of peak torque...
at 2K on the tach. To put this motor in a 300 lbs lighter and smaller car with a 6 speed instead of a Tip will be quite adequate to kill an M3. People are just tripping, IMHO. A B5 S4 tuned to max power and drivability will still kick both, though.
