S4 / RS4 (B5 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the B5 Audi S4 & RS4 produced from 1998-2002

BT: Hubcentric rings - work fine or lazy engineering?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-09-2007, 09:24 AM
  #1  
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Pie4Foo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default BT: Hubcentric rings - work fine or lazy engineering?

Over the weekend I installed my new track wheels, 17" Flik Hornets w/Falken Azenis (yes, they clear the StopTechs; pics later).

The kit came with plastic hubcentric rings, which I installed. I then had the wheels balanced and inspected on the car this morning at my mechanic's shop.

When compared to my "street" setup (18" BBS RXIIs w/Toyo T1-Rs), there is slightly more vibration at freeway speeds.

Are the hubcentric rings common for wheels on the S4? Are they usually metal or plastic? Any experience with increased vibration?
Old 04-09-2007, 09:30 AM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
TwinTurboTerror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 13,290
Received 12 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

On both my BBSs, I have hub rings. They are both metal.
Old 04-09-2007, 09:49 AM
  #3  
Audiworld Sponsor
 
DAP@EPL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 19,700
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Most aftermarket wheels have a large hub bore and use centering rings to be able to fit a broader

range of vehicles. So its a cost-savings measure on the part of the wheel manufacturers. That said, a properly sized hub ring (plastic or metal) should not yield any vibrations. Are you sure there isn't an issue with the wheel balance or a slightly bent rim?

Of course, given the choice, I'd have the following preference order:

1) wheels with the proper bore (so no centering rings are needed)

2) metal rings

3) plastic/nylon rings

I was very pleased to find that both my (BBS made) Abt Z6 wheels and the ASA ST2 wheels I bought for my wife's allroad have the Audi center bore so no hubcentric rings are needed.

-Dave Pramanik
Old 04-09-2007, 09:56 AM
  #4  
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Pie4Foo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default My shop checked the roundness of the wheels, everything looked fine.

Incidentally, my BBS wheels do not have hub rings.
Old 04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
  #5  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Andrew C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,628
Received 27 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

2 of 2 sets that i've gotten w/ wheels have been plastic (Ronal & Flik). no vibration issues.
Old 04-09-2007, 10:12 AM
  #6  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Andrew C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,628
Received 27 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

maybe need to road force balance.
Old 04-09-2007, 10:43 AM
  #7  
RKA
AudiWorld Uber User
 
RKA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 66,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Have the wheel bolts been torqued to spec while off the ground (and in star fashion)?

with a properly machined bore, it shouldn't be so critical, but with the rings installed...it might be a good idea to torque to spec with the wheels off the ground, just to eliminate an "off-center" condition causing the issue.
Old 04-09-2007, 12:08 PM
  #8  
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Pie4Foo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'll probably check once more. I thought everything was on tight this morning.
Old 04-09-2007, 12:43 PM
  #9  
RKA
AudiWorld Uber User
 
RKA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 66,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default It's not just a question of being on tight...

If you have load on the wheel while you're torquing the bolts, it's possible the wheel it not sitting 100% on-center (remember, those adapters are plastic), and that could be causing the vibrations. If you keep the wheel in the air and torque down the nuts, there is a higher probability that the wheel stays centered while you're torquing it down.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nvr_follow
A4 (B6 Platform) Discussion
4
04-29-2008 02:27 PM
AudiQmann
Wheels & Tires Discussion
2
11-15-2006 06:40 AM
allgood
Audi allroad
3
03-27-2005 08:35 AM
Marc Collins
Wheels & Tires Discussion
2
10-22-2002 05:53 AM



Quick Reply: BT: Hubcentric rings - work fine or lazy engineering?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:39 AM.