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Hmmm. What stage would you have to go to in order to run w/an M3?

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Old 06-14-2001, 03:52 AM
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Default Hmmm. What stage would you have to go to in order to run w/an M3?

That is, a blown E36 M3. A buddy has one, and he's gotten 13.1 to 13.5 timeslips. Dunno 0-60, but I'd guess not better than mid 4's (traction is an issue).

He's thinking aftercooler, which will bump him from around 350hp to 400hp, and would likely break into the 12's. eeks.
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Default I don't believe there is any accepted definition of what

any particular stage means. Each tuner has his own "stages" or no reference to "stage" at all. There are several tuners who, either presently or soon will, offer packages that will get over 400hp from an S4 2.7t. That should let you run with any M3, probably even the M5.
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Default A good chip, filter,and full exhaust should put you in the twelves.

But no matter what you have done to the car it is only as fst as the driver can drive it!
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12's with a few bolt-ons? That's awesome.
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Default i am not so sure about that,

2 very good drivers, Slvrbullet and D. Schotz only ran 13.0's with that type of setup. I think that yes you can get 12's with that, but you need to have one really flawless run, with optimal conditions
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Default True, but SlvBullet missed a shift on his run and Dave's clutch was going out

as well as he's at an elevation of atleast 1500ft. My best time corrected to sea level would have been a little over 1 tenth quicker.

But, an S4 will have trouble beating a "properly" tuned SC M3.
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Default Probably even the M5? heheheh, with 400+ HP in a S, that M5 better have a bunch of bolt-ons

if it's keeping up or we need to slap the S4 driver.
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Default OK. So it sounds like to me that a well set up

blown E36 M3 is too close of a call with a chipped/intaked/exhaust(ed) S4. We're talking low 13's for either car.

If you take the S4 to the next level and go with bigger turbos, how much turbo lag do you experience?
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Lag-whats that?
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It probably doesn't lag much different does it?


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