LCP

...compared to about 320hp and 3600 lbs. of weight. If he was only 5 car lengths behind all the way up to 150, I'd say he did pretty darn good.

rojodosformula::red

I hung with one to 80mph without launching and that was on a stock box at the time.

LCP

Once they get going, regular C5 Vettes are quite "fast", at least compared to Stage I/II S4's. At Stage 3- (K04's, no fueling), I'd put 3-4 car lengths on regular C5's much the same as I'd put 3-4 car lengths on Stage II+ (downpipes) S4's. Z06's would still take off from me then. 0-150 for a C5 Z06 vs. a Stage I/II S4 would probably be at least a 100 yard victory to the Z06.

rojodosformula::red

Exactly. 5 car lengths on stg 2 = z06

LCP

To 80 maybe. To 150, at least a football field. Please stop speculating about which you know little.

rojodosformula::red

Don't blame me if you say I know little when I use your information.

LCP

S4 AVT was writing about a 0-150 run and losing by 5 car lengths. You write he shouldn't lose to a standard C5 so it must be a Z06. I point out the superior power to weight ratio of a standard C5 to a Stage II S4. You talk about being even with a standard C5 up to 80. I point out that's only an eighth of a mile. I point out that at Stage 3- (~390hp), I put the same distance of 3-4 car lengths on C5's (350hp) as I do on Stage 2+ S4's (~350hp) (compare to regular Stage 2 S4's with only ~320hp -- a significant difference), referring to much shorter races than 0-150mph (e.g., 0-60, 50-90, 80-120, etc.), although not stated in my posts. Then you reply that 5 car lengths on a 0-150 race must mean it's a Z06, when based on runs I've had where the Z06's got to 150, and when I was Stage 3- (again, ~390hp), I was doing only around 135mph, and they were 6-8 car lengths ahead of me, I reply it's at least a football field gap from 0-150mph between a Stage 2 S4 and a Z06, which would be about 20 car lengths, or the sum of 6 to 8 that the Z06's could put on me, plus the 3 to 4 I could at the same power level put on Stage 2+ S4 or standard C5, extrapolated out from a short run to a long run for probably a total of 8 to 10 car lengths on that long run to 150 instead of only 3 to 4 car lengths, plus the 5 car lengths S4 AVT claimed to have lost by while even slower at only Stage 2. 6 to 8 car lengths plus another 8 to 10 car lengths plus another 5 car lengths is 19-23 car lenghts, or a football field.

rojodosformula::red

"I'd put 3-4 car lengths on regular C5's much the same as I'd put 3-4 car lengths on Stage II+ (downpipes) S4's" - LCP <--- That's you.

Thus:

<img src ="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/71729/s4_vs_vette.jpg">

Would you care for me to convert it to S-domain or put it in a Laplace transform and draw you an electrical circuit of how you're wrong and can't understand your own post as well? Spread sheet maybe? Make a nice little graph doc style? After all, I did use your information in the previous post to substantiate my opinion. If you don't like it then you should re-write your own post so you understand it. Discuss it amongst yourself before dragging me into it.

Additionally. I'm going to be out until later this weekend before I can provide a response. I already have one written since I already know what you're going to say.


"Math hates you." -Mirror|rorriM

rojodosformula::red

This is all I have to say about it. I'm just going to post it now since I'm tired of wasting time on it. I'm too busy for it as well.

Anything you've said past that 4 car lengths is all speculation...

"extrapolated out from a short run to a long run for probably a total of 8 to 10 car lengths on that long run to 150 instead of only 3 to 4 car lengths, plus the 5 car lengths S4 AVT claimed to have lost by while even slower at only Stage 2. 6 to 8 car lengths plus another 8 to 10 car lengths plus another 5 car lengths is 19-23 car lengths, or a football field."

All of this is speculation. Key word "extrapolated". What makes your speculation so much better than what I've said based on the information that you provided? I was maybe a headlight behind a c5 to 80mph max. Who says he's magically going to take off from there unless the C5 was fVcked with? An option that was never presented. There's a little too much speculation and extrapolation in this thread. The 0-80mph race was not my only run in with a C5 either. I've gone to 130 or so with another only losing by a fender along with another to approx. 120 with similar results. There was no significant pull leading to this point. Anything past this is all speculation and useless. Neither of these incidents would suggest that the C5 was going to pull like a freight train past that. This suggests to me that it is very possible that the vette could have been a z06 from my point of view. Maybe a ****ty run for the z06 but the possibility still exists. Street racing has unpredictable and sometimes surprising results. Based on my runs with c5's this seems like a very viable option. The only difference is that I actually have a stage 2 car similar to the car in question and have raced c5s to high speeds. None of my experiences indicated an extrapolated loss of 4-5 car lengths to 150. On another note. I don't really care anymore. I'm confident enough in my education and test scores that this thread is meaningless. All arguments you've presented have been extrapolated and therefore are theoretical. My extrapolations have come to different conclusions than yours. Any further discussion is pointless and a waste of everyones time. Have a good day sir. I'm going to go watch Formula 1 and put a turbo in.