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Old 02-14-2003, 04:29 AM
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Default Question on MAF flows -SlvrBulletS4, Piggie, Darin, anyone?

What is the relationship between torque, g/sec MAF flow and sensor voltage?

I have learned, courtesy SlvrBulletS4, that the voltage maxes out at 5 v and that MAF readings have gone as high as 295-300 g/sec. Is that max reading at 5v or were the K03's maxed out?

If it's 300 g/sec @ 5 v then the relationship is 60 g/sec per volt. Is this correct? Then what is the torque to MAF flow relationship? (I'm too rushed to search for it this morning - somebody must know)
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The MAF output voltage is not a linear function of the mass air flow. It is linearized in the ECU.
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Default Like VonK said, it's not linear, here is some more information.

<ul><li><a href="http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf">MAF Sensor (PDF File)</a></li></ul>
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Default Not only is it not linear the voltage sweeps are gear dependant!

I think this more of a function of the voltage ramping up more quickly in the lower gears than anything else!
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And that's done in the ECU not the MAF.
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As you know, out MAF is a "micromechanical hot film air mass meter", not hot wire.
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Default As explained below it's not linear, and as far as relationship to torque...

g/sec is correlated to HP because it is a flow rate over time. But from that you can derive torque. There is a very *rough* guideline that 1 g/sec = 1 wheel HP, which would mean

wheel TQ = (MAF g/sec * 5252) / RPM

Now that is very rough, does not take octane, timing, and air/fuel ratios into account, so by no means is it terribly accurate.
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the extrapolation is done in the ecu but the actual output voltage is done in the MAF!
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Right. But I would say "linearization" rather than "extrapolation". :-)
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Default here are some equations i came up with last summer.as MAF rises, the voltage signal to the ecu drops

a 4th order fit based on some low-flow values gave me about a 10% full-scale output error when compared to an observed max of 364.08 g/s. according to this equation, the max flow would be 401.15 at 0 Volts out.

MAF = -0.615*V^4 + 4.4545*V^3 + 14.659*V^2 - 188.43*V +401.15

Fitting data to a minimum of 0 g/s @ 5V, and ~364 g/s @ 0 V...

MAF = 16.669*V^2 - 155.44*V + 363.9

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