Topic of low S4 resale values -
03-11-2006, 08:39 AM
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Topic of low S4 resale values -
Comparison with another similar car - lets say Toyota Supra Turbo.
S4
Easily mod-able (to a reasonable level - 400HP)
Good looking - more classy
four doors with more room in the back - i.e. more practical
Most people who own them, love them
Fairly luxorious and easy to add lux - Phatbox, Nav+, etc.
Not as reliable
Easy to find
Supra
Easily mod-able (to a reasonable level - 450HP)
Good looking - more sporty
only two doors - 2+2 - i.e. not as practical
Most people who own them, love them
Not as luxurious
Reliable - for the most part
Hard to find
You can buy a decent mileage S4 (under 100k) for $15-20k these days. A decent mileage Supra (under 200k) is $25-40k.
Is the difference due to reliablility (Supra>S4)or availability (S4>Supra) - I think they are otherwise equal?
Once more S4 are taken out of commission, will the value increase - i.e. are S4's future classics like the Supra?
S4
Easily mod-able (to a reasonable level - 400HP)
Good looking - more classy
four doors with more room in the back - i.e. more practical
Most people who own them, love them
Fairly luxorious and easy to add lux - Phatbox, Nav+, etc.
Not as reliable
Easy to find
Supra
Easily mod-able (to a reasonable level - 450HP)
Good looking - more sporty
only two doors - 2+2 - i.e. not as practical
Most people who own them, love them
Not as luxurious
Reliable - for the most part
Hard to find
You can buy a decent mileage S4 (under 100k) for $15-20k these days. A decent mileage Supra (under 200k) is $25-40k.
Is the difference due to reliablility (Supra>S4)or availability (S4>Supra) - I think they are otherwise equal?
Once more S4 are taken out of commission, will the value increase - i.e. are S4's future classics like the Supra?
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03-11-2006, 09:31 AM
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Was looking at mods for both beyond chip and/or MBC
S4 at 400hp
K04, chip, and fueling at $7k
Supra at 450hp
Single turbo, "chip", and fueling at $5k
Supra's can get to 400hp with MBC and not much else. Beyond that is tougher - but they can take quite a bit more power with money.
The S4 currently tops out quickly largely due to engine bay issues. The Supra is nice due to the lay out of the engine - the single turbo is fairly easy.
K04, chip, and fueling at $7k
Supra at 450hp
Single turbo, "chip", and fueling at $5k
Supra's can get to 400hp with MBC and not much else. Beyond that is tougher - but they can take quite a bit more power with money.
The S4 currently tops out quickly largely due to engine bay issues. The Supra is nice due to the lay out of the engine - the single turbo is fairly easy.
03-11-2006, 09:35 AM
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$50k for the Supra
Although there was a stretch when Toyota was giving them away for $10k off that price - if only I had the money then.
The RX-7 has the same issues as the S4 plus is not near as practical - only 2 seats. The RX is less reliable than the S4 and tops out at a relatively low HP.
The RX-7 has the same issues as the S4 plus is not near as practical - only 2 seats. The RX is less reliable than the S4 and tops out at a relatively low HP.