Q8 or GLE 450
Forgot to mention the GLE is the 2020 model.
Last edited by Ron.S; Sep 14, 2018 at 07:54 AM.
I've got the Q8, Cayenne, W167 GLE450, and G05 X5 on my list. Cayennes are already on the ground and Q8s are in-transit. Will need to drive them all before making a decision.
The inline-6 in the Mercedes with EQ Boost is very interesting. Same with the B58 in the X5.
I've got the Q8, Cayenne, W167 GLE450, and G05 X5 on my list. Cayennes are already on the ground and Q8s are in-transit. Will need to drive them all before making a decision.
The inline-6 in the Mercedes with EQ Boost is very interesting. Same with the B58 in the X5.
The Cayenne will be a great “drivers” choice but may lack some of the comfort & tech features of the Q8. Even though the US won’t get Level 3 self driving it might be added by the owner, maybe not. One of the things that I like about Audi is the ability to make system changes. My 2018 SQ 5 was purchased before DAP was available but I was still able to add things like Traffic Signs & Lane Keep Assist anyway.
As the year progresses more info and professional reviews will add more meat! There has never been so many great alternatives.
I’m fairly active on the Forum and haven’t seen your issues mentioned, maybe it’s just the Q7. Audi was ranked 2nd in Quality behind low volumn Equus as a car manufacturer. MB and BMW were not even close, but MB GLA issues probably caused their low rating.
Do you have a bad dealer? Have you reached out to Audi?
My Audi is just the opposite....The tech is great and flawless. (Not a fan of he MMI structure) In fact after 15 months and 18000 miles there has never been a single issue despite being built in Mexico.
I’m fairly active on the Forum and haven’t seen your issues mentioned, maybe it’s just the Q7. Audi was ranked 2nd in Quality behind low volumn Equus as a car manufacturer. MB and BMW were not even close, but MB GLA issues probably caused their low rating.
Do you have a bad dealer? Have you reached out to Audi?
Not questioning the quality of the car, although I would rate BMW equal, and in fact my 2015 BMW X5d had a better interior in my opinion, but "quality" can be very subjective. As examples though, leather dash in the BMW, full leather seats and not partial fabric - and more design than quality: far better interior storage in the Bimmer, steering wheel controls for ACC rather than the less ergonomic separate stalk in the Audi, dash button to permanently turn off auto start/stop, a real, separate hill-hold button - deleted by Audi in US vehicles, headlight washers (only available with the Night Vision option in US Q7s), individual TPS monitors for tires, and true automatic parallel parking - advertised in the Audi but non-functional in the US. But those are more personal preferences rather than operational. I expect the safety and convenience functions in my car to be ironclad, boilerplate reliable, every single time I drive. They were in my BMW, they aren't in my Audi - and I'm not alone.
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Not questioning the quality of the car, although I would rate BMW equal, and in fact my 2015 BMW X5d had a better interior in my opinion, but "quality" can be very subjective. As examples though, leather dash in the BMW, full leather seats and not partial fabric - and more design than quality: far better interior storage in the Bimmer, steering wheel controls for ACC rather than the less ergonomic separate stalk in the Audi, dash button to permanently turn off auto start/stop, a real, separate hill-hold button - deleted by Audi in US vehicles, headlight washers (only available with the Night Vision option in US Q7s), individual TPS monitors for tires, and true automatic parallel parking - advertised in the Audi but non-functional in the US. But those are more personal preferences rather than operational. I expect the safety and convenience functions in my car to be ironclad, boilerplate reliable, every single time I drive. They were in my BMW, they aren't in my Audi - and I'm not alone.
The Report was Feb 2018 and ranked Audi 2nd vs BMW 3rd overall ranking. In Quality Audi was ranked 4 and BMW 5th. That’s pretty close to even. Each of us has our own individual experience and statistics don’t mean much if we get a bad one.
Last edited by Ron.S; Sep 30, 2018 at 06:40 PM.
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I’m leaning Benz as my first choice, Audi Q8 second based on what I know now but have to see, touch & drive them. At the price of these it would tick me off to have buyers remorse,




