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Can someone verify whether the Bilstein heavy shocks and sports shocks are essentially the same.

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Old 05-04-2001, 10:26 PM
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Default Can someone verify whether the Bilstein heavy shocks and sports shocks are essentially the same.

I called in late Friday for the H&R group buy andwas told by Darryl that the sport shocks were sold out and backlogged two months because of this group-buy. But he also said that the heavy shocks and the sports shocks were really the same thing, that the heavy shocks had a longer shaft, but that this would not affect drive quality at all under any conditions. Is this true?

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Default Heavy Duty has softer valving and is same length as stock...

Sports are 1" shorter and stiffer than stock specifications. Sport can be used with either stock or stiffer lowering springs.
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Default The question is whether valving is the soul contributor to ride quality. ;)

<ul><li><a href="http://catalog.com/susq/shocks/bilstein.htm">Billy data</a></li></ul>
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If you're lowered, you need the Sports! Otherwise...HDs are OK.
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Default That depends on the springs. Pro Kits from Eibach are made to go with stock shocks. HD's are made&

to go with stock springs. I ran Eibachs on stock shocks without bottoming out and now Eibachs on HD's with 10mm drop hats. Still no bottoming on very bad roads. Real world data. The H&R's may be a different story. Does anyone have Billy HD's on H&R's? I'd like a review due to burning curiousity.
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Default Thanks for the feedback. The guys at Shox insist that the HD shocks are absolutely the same

as the sports shocks, except for the longer shaft, and that they will perform identically, even with my H&R sports springs.
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Default So, you get the same shock for cheaper. :) I don't trust salesman, but Bilstein engineers are hard

to find. There must be some sort of physics related consequence of a longer shaft over a shorter one in travel other than shorter bump travel even if the tubes are(/aren't) equally pressurized with the nitrogen. Please obtain tech data from them that will contradict the marketing literature cleared by Bilstein in the other retailer's ads. Someone is misinformed or misinforming and I would hate to think that the manufacturer is authorizing false data in their advertising.
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Default No...sport shock have ~25-33% more dampening characteristics...eg 'firmer'...and that comes ...

Bilstein and not a sales facility.
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Thanks. And that settles that.
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OK. I'm canceling the order. I wanted an excuse to hold out for coilovers anyway.


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