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Old 02-13-2004, 12:29 PM
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Default Even though the decision was made a coupe of weeks ago this is news of a sort...

... <font color="003366">the PSK in Ingolstadt approved S versions (as in S3, S4, S6, S8 not that S-Line stuff) of the next generation TT coupe and roadster. These will use an all-aluminum 2.0L turbocharged 16-valve FSI four-cylinder that is good for 280PS in Euro 4 emissions trim.

S models come out about a year after the next gen-car goes on sale. This is for the European market at the moment. Don't know if the model will be merchandised in North America.

Just though you'd appreciate the update.</font>
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any clues on why they would use a 16v instead of a 20v plant?

Thanks for the update btw.
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Cool, Turbo lives on in a S-car...
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Default Yep. Two reasons both interrelated. First, they're committed to direct-injection...

...<font color="003366"> technology for gasoline-fueled engines. Packaging the injector in a 5-valve design compromised the valve size and placement enough where the flow was no better than a good 4-valve arrangement. Still more costly but with no payoff.

Emissions, specifically Euro 4 emissions, are easier to meet with the 4-valve setup. So bye-bye 20v.</font>
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Default even more interesting

Audi and VW always played up the 5v/cylinder technology as being cleaner. It seems that 4v is actually cleaner...strange.

Does this also mean that the current 1.8t will be the last of the 5v engines?
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Default It's beginning to look that way what with the 3.2L becoming the replacement...

... <font color="003366">for the remaining 2.8L and 3.0L 90° V6 gasoline engines at Audi and VW.</font>
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Uhuh. Thanks for the info.
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Default I think that the 5v technology was a "fad" of sorts among many of the automakers...

While initially they found a lot of benefit... overall, I think that it proved to be more costly, and also more flow could be had from 4 valves.
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Interesting to note that 5-valves never worked out for any F1 team that tried 'em.
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Default Really... that part of it I didn't know...

I remember when Mercedes was leading the charge on how much superior 5 valve technology was when they had introduced it on their 500 engines initially on the SL, when peak HP dropped from 318 to 302.. most people couldn't understand that.


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