? ExTTreme, Col. Bogey. What if you lower by 1 inch only. (more)
06-01-2000, 09:55 AM
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? ExTTreme, Col. Bogey. What if you lower by 1 inch only. (more)
I'm not sure I want to lower 1 3/4 inches. 1 inch seems a fair compromise for road use. Do you have any comments? How would this affect Mance's specs. for toe-in, etc.,?<p>ChrisTTopher Lloyd
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06-01-2000, 10:21 AM
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Toe could still be set at "0". Camber will be less than -.75 to -1. but thats ok. Won't hurt a thing
The numbers you're suggesting would be a good compromise for spirited street application with maybe an occasional autocross thrown in. Better than what you have now and less than it's potential. Always a good idea to "over-engineer."
06-01-2000, 10:24 AM
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Re: ? ExTTreme, Col. Bogey. What if you lower by 1 inch only. (more)
Christopher, if I am reading your post correctly, I too am one of those oddballs who really don't care for lowering much. That is, I don't like the look of a slammed car. No offense, of course, to those who do.
I think that the Eibachs springs only lower the TT by an inch or so, but I'm not sure if they are making them for the quattro. They also make an anti-roll bar, but I think that's designed for the FWD TT.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
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I think that the Eibachs springs only lower the TT by an inch or so, but I'm not sure if they are making them for the quattro. They also make an anti-roll bar, but I think that's designed for the FWD TT.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
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06-01-2000, 10:33 AM
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Brad, I'm a huge Bilstein fan from my 70s rallying days (more)
so, if I make changes, it'll be the H&R coilover route, slightly lowered as discussed.
How's your new TT?
My new engine is somewhere on a truck right now.<p>ChrisTTopher Lloyd
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How's your new TT?
My new engine is somewhere on a truck right now.<p>ChrisTTopher Lloyd
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06-01-2000, 01:14 PM
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Hey Mance, I'm one of the "not too low" guys too...
I got a lot out of your Bilstein post earlier, and I think coilovers are a must-have for me and my Mk II-cause-I-had-no-choice 225 coming in August. You mentioned that even stock ride height with coilovers would be a dramatic difference. I'm concerned about crunching the dams of a lowered car, though even stock height will take some getting used to from my current ride anyway.
Do you care to comment further on upgrading suspension but keeping stock height, or dropping 1/2 inch, or dropping 3/4, etc and how dramatic the handling difference is with each successive drop? Thanks.<p><A HREF="mailto:evan@evan.com"><IMG SRC="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/AudiWorldPics/2000/EVAN_RING_SIG.gif" BORDER="0"></A>
Do you care to comment further on upgrading suspension but keeping stock height, or dropping 1/2 inch, or dropping 3/4, etc and how dramatic the handling difference is with each successive drop? Thanks.<p><A HREF="mailto:evan@evan.com"><IMG SRC="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/AudiWorldPics/2000/EVAN_RING_SIG.gif" BORDER="0"></A>
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Yet another neat feature of coil overs...you can peg the height you want/need.
The 1 3/4" initial starting point for me seems modest in light of how much higher our Qs sit compared to FWD. We shall see as this whole effort is work-in-progress of the first order.
BTW I remain concerned about bushing failure if I dial in varing ride height changes, especially a lower setting. I called Suspension Engineering today. Phone jock told me a kit will be available in 30 days as they are developing system for Intrax. He said they are working on it as we speak. I am somewhat conservative, however, when obtaining information from a guy who ends every sentence with "DUDE".
BTW I remain concerned about bushing failure if I dial in varing ride height changes, especially a lower setting. I called Suspension Engineering today. Phone jock told me a kit will be available in 30 days as they are developing system for Intrax. He said they are working on it as we speak. I am somewhat conservative, however, when obtaining information from a guy who ends every sentence with "DUDE".
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06-01-2000, 02:16 PM
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Even ii you didnt drop at all the difference in ride, responsiveness, dampening and rebound...
cornering flatter, etc would be significant over stock. HUGELY better than the Monroe system now. But just for the record I still dont scrape my cars chin/tailpipe at over a 2" drop from stock, tho admittedly I've driven dramatically lowered cars for decades and know what I can/cant do without thinking about it.
Ever .250" in drop should bring about an appreciable and discernable "feel" to one witn more than 5k miles on his/her TT. Each drop of that amount (or less for that matter) lowers the cars center of gravity and reduces its drag coefficient yielding better hiway MPG. It also stiffens the springs, allows you to corner flatter, take turns faster and is easier to control the car in doing so AND recover from if you screw up.
No one has to slam their car to the ground to reap the benefits of coilovers. All ya gotta do is install the little devils. What you do after that height-wise is up to you. But trust you will probably want to run lower than you're imagining today. And I cant find fault with that. You guys all sound just like me 25 years ago.
Once you've tasted the rewards of this conversion it becomes a little addictive. Ya want more and more. But I'll leave that self-discovery/fulfillment issue where it belongs... with you.
Dont say I didn't warn ya tho. Handling is a thrilling power... power is addictive. Coilovers are a heady wine, best sipped slowly (initially).
Ever .250" in drop should bring about an appreciable and discernable "feel" to one witn more than 5k miles on his/her TT. Each drop of that amount (or less for that matter) lowers the cars center of gravity and reduces its drag coefficient yielding better hiway MPG. It also stiffens the springs, allows you to corner flatter, take turns faster and is easier to control the car in doing so AND recover from if you screw up.
No one has to slam their car to the ground to reap the benefits of coilovers. All ya gotta do is install the little devils. What you do after that height-wise is up to you. But trust you will probably want to run lower than you're imagining today. And I cant find fault with that. You guys all sound just like me 25 years ago.
Once you've tasted the rewards of this conversion it becomes a little addictive. Ya want more and more. But I'll leave that self-discovery/fulfillment issue where it belongs... with you.
Dont say I didn't warn ya tho. Handling is a thrilling power... power is addictive. Coilovers are a heady wine, best sipped slowly (initially).