I know nothing about buffers, please help!
11-06-2003, 05:24 PM
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I know nothing about buffers, please help!
I am thinking about getting a PC, is it used only for applying either a glaze or polish? Then you remove the haze by hand? And then the wax, you apply with a PC and then remove the haze by hand again? Differences in pads for polish and wax?
Thanks!
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11-06-2003, 05:31 PM
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Most folks here (on the detailing forum) use it only for applying polish...
and then remove by hand. Wax you apply and remove by hand. Most waxes are solid and are difficult to work with the PC. There is a guy that uses a PC to apply Blitz and it works for him so it is possible.
I have a once or twice a year routine where I use 3 different polishes (Menzerna IP, Menzerna FP, P21S GEPC) with the PC. Otherwise I'll use it for some spot polishing or maybe do the GEPC a few times but that's it.
I have a once or twice a year routine where I use 3 different polishes (Menzerna IP, Menzerna FP, P21S GEPC) with the PC. Otherwise I'll use it for some spot polishing or maybe do the GEPC a few times but that's it.
11-06-2003, 05:59 PM
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Well, first of all, a Porter-Cable is over-kill...
Any one of these work just fine, at 1/4 the cost.
Random-Orbit is the game here.
<img src="http://jbipes.home.comcast.net/jpgs/buffers2.jpg">
<img src="http://jbipes.home.comcast.net/jpgs/buffer24.jpg">
Also, depending on the polish you use, it's best to apply the stuff with a pad, let it dry, then use the buffer on it.
The cotton pads on the buffer work the best.
Stay away from the 'lambs wool'.
Also, expect that you will need to go over the buffed areas with a hand cloth, as the buffer does not get all the corners.
You need to wipe off the excess in places by hand anyway.
I use mine with 3M products, as well as with Zaino products.
You will be amazed at the results.
Random-Orbit is the game here.
<img src="http://jbipes.home.comcast.net/jpgs/buffers2.jpg">
<img src="http://jbipes.home.comcast.net/jpgs/buffer24.jpg">
Also, depending on the polish you use, it's best to apply the stuff with a pad, let it dry, then use the buffer on it.
The cotton pads on the buffer work the best.
Stay away from the 'lambs wool'.
Also, expect that you will need to go over the buffed areas with a hand cloth, as the buffer does not get all the corners.
You need to wipe off the excess in places by hand anyway.
I use mine with 3M products, as well as with Zaino products.
You will be amazed at the results.
11-06-2003, 06:52 PM
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I like the price options there! I will only use it as a polisher and waxer, never a sander.
It seems like there is two schools of thought here, one to use it to apply polish and wax only or remove only or do both...I am more confused. Maybe I will test it out on a cheapy car first. As for polish I assume when the bottle says machine safe it is good for me right? As for wax, I assume paste is not good, only liquid like #26 or similiar, huh?
11-06-2003, 07:16 PM
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Yes, apply with machine and remove by hand.
There are different pads for different results, just as there are different polishes for different results. Mix and match to get your paint ready for wax.
The PC is a top of the line machine. You will never need another. If you want to save a buck or two pick up a cheap random orbital. The major downside is that you will not have pad options. You might strap on a bonnet, but it's not the same as using a quality foam pad.
The PC is a top of the line machine. You will never need another. If you want to save a buck or two pick up a cheap random orbital. The major downside is that you will not have pad options. You might strap on a bonnet, but it's not the same as using a quality foam pad.
11-06-2003, 07:28 PM
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The problem with removing the polish/wax with the buffer is the pads will fill too quickly...
Typically when removing wax or polish with a towel you fold it over frequently to expose a fresh side. If you're using a buffer you only have one pad surface to work with. Once that fills you're just moving product around and generating heat.
You can apply a paste wax with the buffer but it would be easier to use a liquid wax. I don't really see the advantage tho. Applying wax is just a wipe on process, you don't need to work it into the paint. The buffer helps with the polish because it makes it easier to work it into the paint and allow the polish to work properly.
You can apply a paste wax with the buffer but it would be easier to use a liquid wax. I don't really see the advantage tho. Applying wax is just a wipe on process, you don't need to work it into the paint. The buffer helps with the polish because it makes it easier to work it into the paint and allow the polish to work properly.
