buTTocks

Any personal experiences with MK 1 high-speed lift on the track? My car has the MK 1 and is also pre-wing and I'd rather not let the softer recall setup via Audi into the car. The stock handling is quite impressive and predictable versus my last ride (M Roadster).

One dealer said that Audi considered the MK 2 suspension mod OR the wing sufficient. Does the little wing and front deflector really spoil enough air at 100mph+ to negate the quicker break away of the suspension?

Do aftermarket coilovers alone solve the erratic behavior, or are the new arms and bushings, etc., from the MK 2 are the magic bullets.

I believe I saw a few folks who actually installed MK 1 arms. Why just that part?

AkRascal

yes the wing does the job if you are driving at speeds, at legal speed don't bother. I have, by accident had both MK I and MK II on my TT. The dealer, mistakenly installed the MK II's, holy moly was it mushy... now back to MK I and very happy... you want more info, email me.

EighTT

Ditto. The changes made the TT worse, not better.

JohnLZ7W

I've got one of the hybrid setups, Mk2 sway bars, Bilstein shocks/Eibach springs and Mk1 arms. The arms definately change the feel of the car. In normal driving you don't really notice it but once you get a bit more aggressive the car is much more neutral than the Mk2 setup. To give you an idea, on turns that used to invoke ESP because the car was understeering so much, now the car goes into a nice controlled drift and the ESP stays away. The car feels more predictable and controllable because the front end feel doesn't go away so quickly.
I haven't had any issues with high speed stability and I have had to get on the brakes at speed in turns. If you're not ready for how responsive the car can be then I could see how it might give you problems. If you've already got the mk1 setup I think you would hate the mk2. Get the spoiler if you're worried about high speed stability, even do the sway bar upgrades but whatever you do, keep the arms.

carbide01

Where can I get these wondrous arms?

ITALSKIER

I love that sig...

EighTT

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When Audi did the "recall" work and switched from MkI to MkII, initially some dealers were throwing the old parts in the dumpsters. Enterprising TT owners were dumpster diving to get the old MkI arms.

Audi got wind of this and then required that the dealerships return the old parts to the factory where word was they were destroyed.

So obviously, there aren't a lot of MkI arms available. All of the newer TTs on the road have MkIIs. Many older TTs had the recall work done, as uninformed owners may have believed the car was unsafe.

There is nothing unsafe about these arms. They increase the steering response. You might have a problem if you crank the wheel sharply at at 140 mph, but that's probably not a great idea regardless of which arms you own. The handling difference is substantial.

I originally bought a 2000 FWD TT. When I moved to a 2001 TTR, I swapped the front, lower control arms. When I get my 2004 3.2 TTR, I'll do the same thing once again.

This photo taken by bracketracer back when, shows the differences. You can see the larger bushings in the newer MkII arms, which dull the steering response. There is no soft bushing in the MkIs, so the steering is quite direct relative to your input.

RoberTT-WWCD

If you plan on speed over 100mph, i would consider a rear spoiler of some kind.

-Robert

EighTT

Unlike the MkI control arms, adding the spoiler won't detract from the handling of the car.

CarTTman

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